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Old 09-22-2020, 08:45 AM
 
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It really is a joke, all of the problems are staring at people in the face every day regarding poor food choices.

1) Fast Foods, usually loaded with preservatives, chemicals, and appetite stimulating wheat.

2) Frozen Foods, usually loaded with preservatives, chemicals, and appetite stimulating wheat.

3) Processed Foods, usually loaded with preservatives, chemicals, and appetite stimulating wheat.

4) High Fructose Corn Syrup

5) Soy

Avoid all these things and most people would have zero weight issues and obesity would be rare.

Remember people, track the exponential growth in the obesity curve following the introduction of modern wheat in the US in the mid 1980's.
Yes poor food choices do not help in the battle with obesity because these foods are not satieting. While technically one can eat processed foods and still lose weight for most they will still feel hungry after consumption of highly processed foods. Out of that list I will single out High Fructose Corn Syrup as a substance that is not the culprit that leads to obesity. There is no evidence that High Fructose Corn Syrup causes obesity when calories and and protein are equated.

 
Old 09-22-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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It really is a joke, all of the problems are staring at people in the face every day regarding poor food choices.

1) Fast Foods, usually loaded with preservatives, chemicals, and appetite stimulating wheat.

2) Frozen Foods, usually loaded with preservatives, chemicals, and appetite stimulating wheat.

3) Processed Foods, usually loaded with preservatives, chemicals, and appetite stimulating wheat.

4) High Fructose Corn Syrup

5) Soy

Avoid all these things and most people would have zero weight issues and obesity would be rare.

Remember people, track the exponential growth in the obesity curve following the introduction of modern wheat in the US in the mid 1980's.
By modern wheat I'm assuming you are talking about yeast breads and rolls? I've never seen anything in modern literature that shows wheat is what causes obesity. Do you have any evidence for this claim?
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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If sugars are the cause of obesity why does obesity keep rising but sugar consumption has fallen? You always perpetuate these myths that sugar and carbs are the cause of obesity when the real cause is overconsumption of calories.
And a huge majority of those calories in the majority of processed, frozen, and fast foods come from modern wheat. Insulin raising junk wheat with no redeeming value other than causing a healthcare disaster.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Don't bring toxic religion into this topic. It does not belong.
People were thinner a generation or two ago its true but not for the reasons you say. You can be obese and be a moral person. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.
Exactly. My grandmother was always "watching her figure" but she never exercised a day in her life. Rather, she smoked instead of eating. Not exactly a pillar of a healthy lifesyle, but she certainly was thin.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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And a huge majority of those calories in the majority of processed, frozen, and fast foods come from modern wheat. Insulin raising junk wheat with no redeeming value other than causing a healthcare disaster.
Uh no, ultra processed foods get the majority of their calories from all the extra ingredients that are added during the different processes they go through such as milling, extrusion, and molding. You may want to read up on ultra processed foods further.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 02:35 PM
 
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By modern wheat I'm assuming you are talking about yeast breads and rolls? I've never seen anything in modern literature that shows wheat is what causes obesity. Do you have any evidence for this claim?
https://drhyman.com/blog/2012/02/13/...makes-you-fat/
 
Old 09-22-2020, 02:37 PM
 
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Uh no, ultra processed foods get the majority of their calories from all the extra ingredients that are added during the different processes they go through such as milling, extrusion, and molding. You may want to read up on ultra processed foods further.
Of course they have tons of added ingredients, preservatives, and flavorings but the common theme of wheat is usually true.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 04:41 PM
 
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Can you provide a peer reviewed research paper from someone in the field, not an opinion article from someone that got their degree in Asian Studies and studied family medicine and has no clue about nutrition?
 
Old 09-22-2020, 04:46 PM
 
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Of course they have tons of added ingredients, preservatives, and flavorings but the common theme of wheat is usually true.
There is no common theme between wheats such as breads and ultra processed foods. Breads are much more satieting than processed foods. Thus why it’s so easy to gain weight on processed foods.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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An archaeologist's take on the "paleo diet"---
"TED Fellow Christina Warinner is an expert on ancient diets. So how much of the diet phad the "Paleo Diet" is based on an actual Paleolithic diet? The answer is not really any of it.

Dr. Christina Warinner has excavated around the world, from the Maya jungles of Belize to the Himalayan mountains of Nepal, and she is pioneering the biomolecular investigation of archaeological dental calculus (tartar) to study long-term trends in human health and diet."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOjVYgYaG8

On the other hand---


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