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Old 04-24-2017, 08:03 AM
 
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Last night I watched That Sugar Film on Amazon.

"THAT SUGAR FILM started as one man's journey to discover the bitter truth about sugar. Damon Gameau embarked on a unique experiment to document the effects of a high sugar diet on a healthy body, consuming only foods that are commonly perceived, or promoted to be 'healthy’."

I thought it was a good film. Lots of good info about how much added sugars are in supposedly healthy foods and how it can quickly change a healthy person's body.

If you are trying to stay away from sugar, this film is a good motivator!
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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mkay.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cl2IX94GCI
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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Yknow, I've never bought into the low fat = healthy thing when it comes to processed foods. The fat has to be replaced by something and that something is sugar. And for some reason some people think it's safe to overeat because the packaging says "no fat". Low fat cookies and cakes and stuff like that are supposed to be novelty items, treats if you will. At least that's how I treat them. I eat exactly one "low fat" dessert per day, not an entire box of Snackwells. Overconsumption leads to weight gain, no surprise there.
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Low fat would be 5-10% of calories intake. Most low fat diets allow 30%. Low fat doesn't work. Either does low carbs when its over 100 grams. It might be OK for young healthy and active to carb restrict or fat restrict.


A keto diet restricts carbs to 5-10%. A low fat diet should tend to do the same if one is trying to fix a wrecked body.

The good news is you can pick one and even alternate between them. This is epically the case depending on the organ in trouble. A weak liver may not do well with low carb at least until its fixed.
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Old 04-24-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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Low fat would be 5-10% of calories intake. Most low fat diets allow 30%. Low fat doesn't work. Either does low carbs when its over 100 grams. It might be OK for young healthy and active to carb restrict or fat restrict.


A keto diet restricts carbs to 5-10%. A low fat diet should tend to do the same if one is trying to fix a wrecked body.

The good news is you can pick one and even alternate between them. This is epically the case depending on the organ in trouble. A weak liver may not do well with low carb at least until its fixed.
I don't know what you'd classify my diet as, but it's worked for me and still does. I probably eat 50-55% carbs. I've lost 60 lbs and am in great shape. I'm far leaner and muscular at this age (41) than I've been since my 20s. Eating moderate amounts of carbs doesn't inhibit weight loss or cause weight gain. I'm proof of that. I do admit that I lift weights, so it's not just diet that produces my results.

Frankly, I'll never do low carb/keto. That's been my stance forever. I don't find it palatable. In fact, I don't follow any particular diet. I just eat how I eat, eat smaller portions, and try to incorporate healthier foods into my diet.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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I don't know what you'd classify my diet as, but it's worked for me and still does. I probably eat 50-55% carbs. I've lost 60 lbs and am in great shape. I'm far leaner and muscular at this age (41) than I've been since my 20s. Eating moderate amounts of carbs doesn't inhibit weight loss or cause weight gain. I'm proof of that. I do admit that I lift weights, so it's not just diet that produces my results.

Frankly, I'll never do low carb/keto. That's been my stance forever. I don't find it palatable. In fact, I don't follow any particular diet. I just eat how I eat, eat smaller portions, and try to incorporate healthier foods into my diet.

Think it might be contextual?
A keto diet restricts carbs to 5-10%. A low fat diet should tend to do the same if one is trying to fix a wrecked body.

Your mothers breast milk is even better when you were younger.



Some diets don't hurt but they don't help much.



Moderate carbs will not quickly fix a fattly liver or someone who is diabetic. And my point was that its not "the sugar" and its not "the fat" either.


The problem with so many things in this culture is first its a magic bullet, a magic pill and then we need to identify the boggy man. There really are few bad foods. The problem is the modern fusion diets are beating the crap out of people's organs and only the young healthy and fit can sustain them for long.
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Old 04-24-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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Moderate carbs will not quickly fix a fatty liver or someone who is diabetic. And my point was that its not "the sugar" and its not "the fat" either.
With all due respect and interest, what is your point? I'm trying to follow your posts and don't understand some of them. I do agree with a lot of what you're saying.
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Old 04-24-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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With all due respect and interest, what is your point? I'm trying to follow your posts and don't understand some of them. I do agree with a lot of what you're saying.

My point is that sugar isn't poison. Its in all our fruit and vegetables. Its as dogmatic as animal fat is poison as I see from the vegans. Each side removes one of the inputs , declares one a food of the gods, and labels the other a poison. its like saying a lighter causes explosions because without them fuel tanks don't explode.

Certainly refined sugar and hydrogenated oils makes the combination worse, but maple syrup and pork sausage is going to cause chronic metabolic problems as well.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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The point to that video was not to eat refined foods and eat whole foods. The picture of white rice and sugar is (probably intentionally) misleading.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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The point to that video was not to eat refined foods and eat whole foods. The picture of white rice and sugar is (probably intentionally) misleading.

My point is that avoiding processed foods isn't going to solve all of the problems. You can eat whole grain pizza with homemade mozzarella , and you will not self regulate. You can eat while still hungry I suppose , but it will not help with indigestion and sluggishness. You will over eat not only as you age, but will be the cause of accelerated aging. It will get even worse if you have been adding visceral fat.
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