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Old 09-04-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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If you eat low carb because you have diabetes this is not directed at you! If you are eating a certain way because of a medical condition this does not apply to you.
lol. Well, why didn't you say so?
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Old 09-04-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Do I believe that long term diets high in proteins and fats are unhealthy? Yep. I do think the data will show an increase in cancer, heart disease and strokes.

Variety and moderation are the key IMO.
Define "high" in protein and fat.
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Old 09-04-2018, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Define "high" in protein and fat.
In general, any diet that is made up of, primarily, fat and protein.
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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In general, any diet that is made up of, primarily, fat and protein.
I wouldn't necessarily say that though. If you're eating 40% carbs, 30% fat, 30% protein it's primarily fat and protein. I don't see anything wrong with that macro ratio. Something like Keto which is more 75% fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs though, yeah. The body can do amazingly well on almost anything but I remain skeptical about how healthy you can eat limiting carbs that much.
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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I wouldn't necessarily say that though. If you're eating 40% carbs, 30% fat, 30% protein it's primarily fat and protein. I don't see anything wrong with that macro ratio. Something like Keto which is more 75% fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs though, yeah. The body can do amazingly well on almost anything but I remain skeptical about how healthy you can eat limiting carbs that much.
I agree.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:26 AM
 
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So it sounds like "low carb" means truly low. Atkins or Keto low. Less than 50 low. I've been slowly lowering my carb intake over the last few years. But I had a high carb diet. Lots of bread and high carb snacks. I've also been increasing my fiber intake.

I'm down to somewhere between 150 - 250 total carbs per day -- which appears to be good enough since 225 is the low end of what is recommended. Not that this 'study' is anything to worry about. Just thinking it through for myself....

Although my understanding is that Keto is not supposed to be a rest of your life diet change. More of a weight loss system, then there is a slightly higher carb amount allowed for maintaining.
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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I wouldn't necessarily say that though. If you're eating 40% carbs, 30% fat, 30% protein it's primarily fat and protein. I don't see anything wrong with that macro ratio. Something like Keto which is more 75% fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs though, yeah. The body can do amazingly well on almost anything but I remain skeptical about how healthy you can eat limiting carbs that much.
I know why, carbohydrates are the only macros that are NOT ESSENTIAL. Wow, that was complicated.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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I know why, carbohydrates are the only macros that are NOT ESSENTIAL. Wow, that was complicated.
While carbs are not technically "essential," it is the body's preferred source of energy:

https://intrafitt.wordpress.com/2010...rce-of-energy/
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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While carbs are not technically "essential," it is the body's preferred source of energy:

https://intrafitt.wordpress.com/2010...rce-of-energy/
You are correct and I'll even go a step further. Some cells will run only on glucose. Not only that, all foods contain carbs except meat and fat so you can never really go "no" carb unless you are stranded in the woods or in the artic where all you have is meat. In those cases, the body would make it's own from protein and to a lesser degree fat. In all other cases, vegetables, fruits and nuts would contain carbohydrates. So the issue is not the carbs themselves but the type and the amount and whether you want to use them as a primary fuel source.
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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Nutrition is much more than fuel, and macros.

I think that is where we are seeing the reports of people dying younger who do low carb. But, as with anything, time will tell.
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