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Originally Posted by foxywench
generally prongs are safer than chokes but i dont like either..just a personal choice, id much rather use a martingale or "limited choke", and id even much prefer a halti head collar or easy walk harness before that.
however, if pulling is a real issue and nothing else has worked i would aboslutly 100% reccomend a prong collar rather than a choke...
however you must still train the dog with the prong, ive seen many strong willed dogs just pull on right through the pain, prong, like choke should be a quick short jerk to pinch and release rather than a pull pull pull motion.
iva also had good results with the "change direction" method...pulls one way turn around and walk the opposite, for a few steps, repeat as nessicary.
Prong it is. If he won't listen to me, hopefully he'll listen to those prongs.
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Now I recognize it. I despise the song.
Aaaaaand, sadly, it's been stuck in my head for hours.
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Originally Posted by dogmomof2
I see you've been convinced, but I wanted to add, I know 4 dogs who have had prong collars, and none of the 4 has suffered any injuries.
The new collar will give Artie street cred
HAHAHA!! Street cred. I like that. So does Artie.
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The only good thing about that song is that is wasn't by the Culture Club.
sorry I have not read this entire thread but have you tried walking with him while holding raw meat or some other "treat" he highly values to try to train him to walk by your side?
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sorry I have not read this entire thread but have you tried walking with him while holding raw meat or some other "treat" he highly values to try to train him to walk by your side?
I've brought his most favorite treats along with us on our walks -- on numerous occasions. When I say, "Artie? You want chicken?," he stops dead in his tracks, comes back to me, eats the chicken, walks away... and starts pulling. He has a VERY short attention span and I won't give him a (tiny) piece of chicken each house length.
It is a GREAT idea and I'm sure it works with MOST dogs. Artie, however, is not your typical mutt. He's a monster-mutt.
I've brought his most favorite treats along with us on our walks -- on numerous occasions. When I say, "Artie? You want chicken?," he stops dead in his tracks, comes back to me, eats the chicken, walks away... and starts pulling. He has a VERY short attention span and I won't give him a (tiny) piece of chicken each house length.
It is a GREAT idea and I'm sure it works with MOST dogs. Artie, however, is not your typical mutt. He's a monster-mutt.
ahh artie he sounds like he has places to go!
you may be right in that it won't work for him. I have never had to do this but I thought you were supposed to keep the treat in your hand the entire time you walk. so the dog knows it is there and is more focused on the treat and when he might get it rather than walking ahead and getting called later for it. only giving him bits of treat as he walks and stays near you.
have you tried a very short leash? sorry I am grabbing at straws as the prong collars sound terrible.
maybe artie needs a treadmill workout before he goes out on his walks.
good luck
you may be right in that it won't work for him. I have never had to do this but I thought you were supposed to keep the treat in your hand the entire time you walk. so the dog knows it is there and is more focused on the treat and when he might get it rather than walking ahead and getting called later for it. only giving him bits of treat as he walks and stays near you.
have you tried a very short leash? sorry I am grabbing at straws as the prong collars sound terrible.
maybe artie needs a treadmill workout before he goes out on his walks.
good luck
Seriously, I asked a few trainers about putting Rip on a treadmill.
They all said not to, it would shorten his stride.
I knew they did it with Pitt Bulls but, they do not have to move very far.
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ahh artie he sounds like he has places to go!
you may be right in that it won't work for him. I have never had to do this but I thought you were supposed to keep the treat in your hand the entire time you walk. so the dog knows it is there and is more focused on the treat and when he might get it rather than walking ahead and getting called later for it. only giving him bits of treat as he walks and stays near you.
have you tried a very short leash? sorry I am grabbing at straws as the prong collars sound terrible.
maybe artie needs a treadmill workout before he goes out on his walks.
good luck
He's not food-driven, actually, so he needs to be beckoned to get it. Keeping it in my pocket or in my hand, even if he sees it, won't do a thing for him; he won't care. I've never met a dog who's LESS food-driven than my little man.
I tried the short leash, too. Honestly, even with him leashed up right next to my leg, he pulls like a maniac.
You're exactly right: the dude has places to go!
Thanks, though, for trying to help find an alternative. I'm not a fan of the prong collar, either.
I don't like to use food to bribe my dog to get it to do what I want it to .
They should sit when told to, not if a treat is held in front of there nose.
What happens when you don't have a treat with you?
If your dog is expecting a treat it will be salivating and drooling.
No thanks.
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I don't like to use food to bribe my dog to get it to do what I want it to .
They should sit when told to, not if a treat is held in front of there nose.
What happens when you don't have a treat with you?
If your dog is expecting a treat it will be salivating and drooling.
No thanks.
It's totally not an issue with Artie, anyway.
It's 10.18am here now. He hasn't even eaten his breakfast, which was "served" at 6.00am. He's not motivated by food at all.
The times that he took the treat when we were walking? I think it was more about me calling his name rather than the treat. I've called his name without having "want some chicken" after it, and he's reacted the same way.
The way to his heart (or brain, in this case) is not through his stomach, apparently.
I was not a fan of the prong either. My male shepherd was awful when it came to walking. It was a nightmare, he was so strong and would pull that I felt I didn't have good enough control of him when we were out. My arm would be so sore after a walk that I didn't look forward to walking him which meant we didn't go for very many walks. So I decided to try the prong since nothing else worked.
Let me tell you......The very first time I put it on him I was able to walk him without any pulling! I was so thrilled that I ended up cutting the walk short and turning around and running back to the house to tell my husband that I had just walked Biker without any problems. I was so excited! What a difference. It was like power steering. He got a lot more walks and I enjoyed walking him.
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I was not a fan of the prong either. My male shepherd was awful when it came to walking. It was a nightmare, he was so strong and would pull that I felt I didn't have good enough control of him when we were out. My arm would be so sore after a walk that I didn't look forward to walking him which meant we didn't go for very many walks. So I decided to try the prong since nothing else worked.
Let me tell you......The very first time I put it on him I was able to walk him without any pulling! I was so thrilled that I ended up cutting the walk short and turning around and running back to the house to tell my husband that I had just walked Biker without any problems. I was so excited! What a difference. It was like power steering. He got a lot more walks and I enjoyed walking him.
Hope it works for Artie.
OMG, I hope I have such great luck! I just hope it doesn't freak him out. I'm going to test it on myself first to see what it's like -- I don't want to wonder if it's hurting him.
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he sounds like he has places to go! 
