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Old 07-06-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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That is the way I feel about it.......crazy or, not.

We have hunting hounds...........no one I have met has taken care of their hounds like I would yet.
This is the most disgusting thing I have read, besides the OP's post.

 
Old 07-06-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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OP Why did you offer to take the dog to re-home? Why didn't You offer to help her find a way to keep the dog in it own yard?
I gave her resources to work with on training the dog in her own yard. All I can do is provide the resources, if my friend was too selfish or lazy to use them and felt that putting up a new fence would solve all her problems (which it didn't) then what else can I possibly do?

It sounds like your guilty conscience at your lazy solution from killing your 'best bud' instead of taking the time to find a better solution than death is influencing your posts.

You are in the same category as my friend and I do not put any stock in your input.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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I gave her resources to work with on training the dog in her own yard. All I can do is provide the resources, if my friend was too selfish or lazy to use them and felt that putting up a new fence would solve all her problems (which it didn't) then what else can I possibly do?

It sounds like your guilty conscience at your lazy solution from killing your 'best bud' instead of taking the time to find a better solution than death is influencing your posts.

You are in the same category as my friend and I do not put any stock in your input.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 10:54 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I gave her resources to work with on training the dog in her own yard. All I can do is provide the resources, if my friend was too selfish or lazy to use them and felt that putting up a new fence would solve all her problems (which it didn't) then what else can I possibly do?

It sounds like your guilty conscience at your lazy solution from killing your 'best bud' instead of taking the time to find a better solution than death is influencing your posts.

You are in the same category as my friend and I do not put any stock in your input.
Really! Too bad your Friend don't have a say it want happened!
 
Old 07-06-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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It had to do with distance and her reluctance to give up her dog in the first place. I live in California, she lives in the Midwest, and my brother lives in North Carolina. Even if she didn't want me to have her dog, I gave her plenty of resources - some people are just too lazy to put in the effort.

You killed a healthy cat because your friend's house was dirty? Did you consider working with a rescue group that works with cats? You are in the same category as my friend - I don't understand this mentality that animals are disposable.
I Never said my cat was Healthy to me she was But she was Cripple from her 1st home! They took her to the vet Declawed her Spayed her then a few months later kicked her out in the cold! She got into a car/truck/van to keep warm on the motor got mangled! When I got her her tail was Gangreen! her Pelvis was broken! NO Way I was going to give her to some one that didn't really want her. Didn't care for their own cats. That had Claws & Had Fights at every meal!

Sure I worked with Several Rescues! 3 months before I put her down...

Maybe those rescues were too over crowed to help her!
 
Old 07-06-2015, 11:10 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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What I don't understand is what freaking vet would perform a euthanasia on an 8yo healthy dog??!! Every vet I've ever had rehomed pets when their patients need them to.

I Held Cat that people didn't want cause the got new furniture!! Go figure! By Law Vets have to put animals to sleep they cant keep them or re-home them. Those that do ...well even those news post that come on her Everyone is in an up roar!
 
Old 07-06-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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I am struggling and I am seeking thoughtful, constructive advice. You may have a strong reaction to my behavior or my friends, but I ask that we please keep the dialogue civil or refrain from responding if you cannot.

My best friend of almost 30 years just did a convenience euthanasia on her dog of 8 years. I loved this dog. No health issues and no aggression issues. The dog would escape from the yard on occasion, but cause no harm. She had expressed her frustration with this in the past and I talked to her about retraining or rehoming the dog; she opted to put up a new fence.

I will openly admit that I am a huge animal lover, do a lot of rescue, and have hard line on people who abuse or dispose of animals. Everyone knows this about me as I am very vocal and it is my number one passion in life.

My friend texted me heartbroken that she "had" to put her dog down. I assumed the dog had been hit or sick or something and called her immediately to see if she was alright. When I asked her what happened she said nothing that the dog had gotten out again and she was worried about what could happen. I then asked her if she was with the dog when they euthanized her and she was not. Out of shock I said 'so you deserted her when she needed you most'. Being that my friend needed someone to support her in that moment, I told her that I was going to go, she agreed that was best and we ended the conversation. In order not to subject my friend to my very strong and angry reaction, I decided to give it space for a while.

The very next day she started texting me her justifications and how 'lots of people' think she did the right thing, that she did what she thought was best for the dog, she was heartbroken that she 'lost' her best friend (talking about her dog), and that bottom line it was her decision that she had to live with.

Unfortunately, her pushing me at that moment resulted in me telling her my opinion that convenience euthanasia is a violation of the human-animal bond and that her dog deserved better. I said she didn't have the courage to honor that bond by being there at the end. That she should not delude herself that she did what was best for the dog, she did what was best for her. I told her to seek support from those people that agree with her decision because I cannot support her through this. She said I was being selfish. I told her it was better for me to be selfish than subject her to my strong feelings about the situation. I asked that we each go find the support we need, grieve the loss, and give it some space.

I agree that not being there for her when she is hurting is selfish, but I just cannot. The thoughts that run through my head are strong and detrimental to her. I too am mourning the loss and I see her as the direct cause - she killed her dog. I think things like at least my selfishness didn't result in the death of a perfectly healthy and loyal animal. I am completely repulsed, disgusted, and shocked by my friend's decision. When she said was 'heartbroken and suffering' my thought was good, you deserve be, you created that, and you are a coward (so you can see why I am not the best person to support her right now).

I am struggling with if and how to continue to be her friend. It seems that 30 years of friendship deserves an effort to work through this. I just don't know if I can or how I would.

Please keep your responses civil and if you have constructive advice that you are willing to share I would appreciate that very much.
How is this any different than those who refuse to put their animals down humanely when they are terminally ill?
They do what is convenient for them not what is best for the animal but no one is repulsed, disgusted or shocked by their behavior.

You have your ideals about what is right or justified and your friend has hers. You do not have to like nor agree with her ideals however, if you are truly friends you would accept her decision.

Perhaps you are the one who deserves to be heartbroken and suffering and perhaps you are the one who is a coward because you "cannot bring yourself" to accept her decision about her animal.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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OP I like to know What Your track record is... How many have you re-homed ... & how many Healthy dogs You couldn't fine home for that you had to put to sleep... Or did you just pass them around from place to place til some one said hay this is enough! ????
 
Old 07-06-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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OP I like to know What Your track record is... How many have you re-homed ... & how many Healthy dogs You couldn't fine home for that you had to put to sleep... Or did you just pass them around from place to place til some one said hay this is enough! ????
Is there some reason you are attacking the OP? She gave her story, anything else is none of your business.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I Held Cat that people didn't want cause the got new furniture!! Go figure! By Law Vets have to put animals to sleep they cant keep them or re-home them. Those that do ...well even those news post that come on her Everyone is in an up roar!
Where the *beep* did you pull that nonsense from? They may not be able to take your money to euthanize them and then not perform the service they charged you for because that would be fraud, but they are not forbidden by law from adopting or finding a home for an animal. Many don't - by choice - because they probably have neither the time nor the resources to do it. Sheesh.
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