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Old 11-06-2009, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Beautiful place in Virginia
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I used Angel Eyes for our Bichon.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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I used Angel Eyes for our Bichon.
Yes, that's tylosin, an antibiotic. It's not a good thing to give an antibiotic if the animal isn't sick. For the reasons I cited above.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:13 PM
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Location: Paradise
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You probably know this already but if you don't here goes. The stains are caused by the protiens in the tears. As long as the dogs eyes water there will be stains because there is always protiens in tears. If you can solve the tears,no more stains.
Hmmm - can't say I agree with this. I have Bostons and a Frenchie and their eyes water but we have no tear stains so I'm not getting the connection.

Eggalegga, I've heard of feeding pineapple to prevent Coprophagia (dog eating feces) but not for tear stains. Wonder if there's an acid connection?
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Hmmm - can't say I agree with this. I have Bostons and a Frenchie and their eyes water but we have no tear stains so I'm not getting the connection.

Eggalegga, I've heard of feeding pineapple to prevent Coprophagia (dog eating feces) but not for tear stains. Wonder if there's an acid connection?
I had a kuvasz and she was a beautiful white furry giant. She suffered somewhat from hot weather and would sometimes get a hot spot. Where ever she licked herself she would stain. When I asked the vet about why this was he told me that it was the same cause as my white poodle's tear stains and that both saliva and tears contain proteins that stain especially white fur. It's possible he was wrong but I found this vet to be one of the best I've come across.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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so what do show dog owners do to prevent or remedy tear stains. my bichon practically has a pink face it is so bad.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:34 PM
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Location: Paradise
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so what do show dog owners do to prevent or remedy tear stains. my bichon practically has a pink face it is so bad.
The few people I know who do show dogs use commercial products like Eye Envy and Angel Eyes. I'm not being judgmental, just saying I prefer not to.

Lucknow...your vet is right about saliva and I'm open to the saliva/tear connection. Sorry...
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Old 11-26-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Thursday, November 11, 2010
TEARSTAIN RESULTS: An Veterinary Opthalmologist Speaks
In a recent presentation to Tucson pet groomers, Dr. Reuben Merideth, a renowned animal opthalmologist stated that the only products he has witnessed as being consistently effective at clearing up severe tear staining were the tylosin based products, such as Angels' Eyes [and Pets' Spark]. To the question of whether or not there were risks associated with the use of tylosin or the possibility of creating a resistence to therapeutic antibiotics, he said, "The minute amount of antibiotic in these products is so far less than the therapeutic dose that there should be no development of resistence." He views this as a safe and effective approach to the problem.

Dr. Merideth is no ordinary veterinarian. He is at the top of his field, having published dozens of articles and contributed chapters to five veterinary textbooks. A Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Opthalmologists (DACVO), as well as a DVM, Dr. Merideth practices at the Southern Arizona Veterinary Specialty and Emergency Center in Tucson, Arizona, as well as in Phoenix, Arizona and in Kansas City, Kansas.

The presentation was part of a series of lectures being offered by practicing veterinary specialists to the Tucson grooming community. This outreach from the veterinary community is in recognition that pet groomers are the pet care professionals that have the most hands on contact with many pets, and are often the first to become aware of many medical problems. The lectures help groomers have a knowledgeable basis for referring clients for medical consultation.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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This is good info to have. thanks
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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This is good info to have. thanks
Yes, with experts in the veterinary opthalmology field chiming in......
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Old 12-02-2010, 06:12 AM
 
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The stains are from the acid in your pup's tears (and saliva if he licks other places). If you mix a dilution of distilled white vinegar water and dab the stains periodically throughout the day, daily, they will eventually clear up.
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