Being poor SUCKS! (loan, real estate, mortgage, company)
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Only in America does poor mean having refrigerated air conditioning, houses heated to 75 degrees in the winter, new clothes, video game players, at least 5 meals out a week, computers, internet service, HDTV and even cable, iPhones, $200 concert tickets.
BS, pure unadulterated BS. Do you leave your gated bunker community at all?
Standing on the soapbox gives rise to the specious notion that one can see further.
Are you going to give the OP any useful advice or are you here to bloviate?
Well, given that he actually has a soapbox, one must assume that he worked very hard to aquire it. So those of you who don't have your own soapbox to stand on might want to consider listening to those who do when they try to help you earn one of your own, rather than berating him for "unfairly" having what they do not.
He didn't. The only thing he seemed to want was to "be rich"
He doesn't seem to acknowledge that the rest of the scale along the way to that even exists...
let alone to appreciate that most won't ever be more than a few notches further along it.
His loss.
Those who say "it's your own fault at 40" need to live through another stock market crash.
Fortunately I live in a country which enables and encourages the poor to improve themselves...its called Socialism.
Those who are poor in a Capitalist society really don't have much of a chance. They are treated like scum.
Oh and those who have "good" families, by which I mean families that supported and helped you through your education? Imagine life without that, if you can. Imagine fending for yourself from the age of 5.
That's what I've overcome and trust me, it makes success very, very difficult if you don't have anyone called "family" who give a chit about you. You never really recover from this sort of handicap because you don't have a safe place to fall.
Looks like the church lady has arrived, but preachy stuff and assorted sweet nothings aren't known to accomplish very much. Being poor has always been hard work. How be if people stop working so hard to make it tougher still.
Am I the church lady? What did you last sentence mean? I cannot decipher it.
Sweet nothings? The original poster is stating that being poor is a vicious cycle. What was the point of the OP then? To ***** about it? I think this person is probably telling everyone this same sob story. And it accomplished NOTHING. It's not a sweet nothing--it's a BITTER nothing.
I don't really get your post at all. How is being poor hard work? In a way, you are making my point! It takes STRUGGLING to be poor! Once you give up the struggle, you allow the Flow to take over. So yeah, it's hard work to fight upstream. Better to drift with the current..
You're right, but wait till The Bootstrappers get here...
Bootstrapper checking in. In order to get out of poverty you do have to pull yourself up by your boot straps. I agree, it is not an easy thing to do. You may have to scrimp and save to get more education or training in a field that will pay you a decent salary. You may have to scrimp and save in order to get the money to move. And just in case that money really is hard to come by, you can always attempt to apply for loans that can help get you started. No, it's not easy to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, but it can be done.
Oh and those who have "good" families, by which I mean families that supported and helped you through your education? Imagine life without that, if you can. Imagine fending for yourself from the age of 5.
That's what I've overcome and trust me, it makes success very, very difficult if you don't have anyone called "family" who give a chit about you. You never really recover from this sort of handicap because you don't have a safe place to fall.
My job (and health) are the only thing that separate me from losing it all to poverty, whether I am/was 25, 35 or 55. No "non market" support network whatsoever, and it's rather a new norm these days. "Markets" (i.e. rich folks making their profit maximization decisions) are 100% outside of our control or even knowledge, not speaking of working against our self-interests 24/7. Every middle class guy can become poor overnight and experience that air conditioned poverty Malumute (in the post above) knows so much about.
Bootstrapper checking in. In order to get out of poverty you do have to pull yourself up by your boot straps. I agree, it is not an easy thing to do. You may have to scrimp and save to get more education or training in a field that will pay you a decent salary. You may have to scrimp and save in order to get the money to move. And just in case that money really is hard to come by, you can always attempt to apply for loans that can help get you started. No, it's not easy to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, but it can be done.
OK, you pulled yourself up, some other discarded market victim took your place. The Law of conservation of the low wage mass in action. The problem is that bootsrappers peddle individual solutions as some sort of the social panacea. It doesn't take Einstein to understand that a success (even relative one) demands many more failures to feed of.
Only in America does poor mean having refrigerated air conditioning, houses heated to 75 degrees in the winter, new clothes, video game players, at least 5 meals out a week, computers, internet service, HDTV and even cable, iPhones, $200 concert tickets.
This made me think of something that I saw the other day. There was a family buying groceries in front of me using EBT (welfare). I only knew because I heard the cashier say something about EBT and the amount of money left or something.
The parents of the kids both had several large tattoos. Tattoos are not a necessity, and they are quite expensive too.
When you see people like this , you do have to wonder if they have their priorities straight. Another thing is I don't understand the mentality of having a bunch of kids and just PLANNING to have the tax payers pay for it.
It also makes you wonder what else they are buying besides the tattoos... Big Tvs ,etc etc.
If they can afford tattoos and things like that , they should be able to afford food for their kids.
Bring on the breast-beating and boastful biographies! It's quite a fine model American you make, isn't it. If only we had more people like you. And more dime-store children's fiction by Horatio Alger.
So what's your solution for poverty? You can pull yourself out, steal, or distribute the wealth. Which is your solution to being "not poor"?
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