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Old 02-21-2009, 02:35 PM
 
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Actually, there is a lot of debate about the amount to which the New Deal actually exacerbated and prolonged the depression. Many people believe the recession of 1937 was a direct result of overreaching by FDR and the New Deal. There are several books and other writings on this topic, including "FDR's Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression" by Powell.

I'm not saying that fiscal stimulus is bad or unwarranted in this situation, but a huge government that employs millions while taxing the remainder of the population at a huge rate isn't the answer and never has been.
I don't believe that FDR caused the depression. But I do think that just like now the federal spending prolonged it and caused alot of hangover afterwards.I aso believe that the huge deficit we are accumlating will cause problems for decades to come. Same as teh progrmas then didn't creat any long term enployment the stimu;us now wil not. Then just like the like people buying homes they couldn't afford the principal and the interest on the borrowing will hurt alot of people as governamnt has to rain in spending.
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Old 02-21-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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They are already in training:

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Volunteers of course from the town and their homes will be searched by Guardsmen. An "Urban training exercise".
I wonder if ANY of these volunteers have considered the day when the choice is not volunteery and those who don't cooperate don't just get to go to a meeting and discuss how it went. Do any of them think about what else they are looking for in the cuppord and what happens if something looks amiss and the whole place has to be "searched"? Will they wake up when the knock on the door in the middle of the night comes?

This is very scary, and the scaryist part is that these volunteers are buying the whole "It's for your good" and "We'll protect you" and that there are likely a lot more out there. Then one magic day they wake up and its already too late.

Sad and bleak day for our nation.
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Old 02-21-2009, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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It was just reported that they have called off the exercise due to the outcry of those opposed. World net daily has a news flash on it.
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Old 02-21-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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It was just reported that they have called off the exercise due to the outcry of those opposed. World net daily has a news flash on it.
Thats a bit of positive news. Still, it doesn't say much good that these volunteers were willing to participate (like it was a video game?) and that someone assumed it would not draw outrage.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Thats a bit of positive news. Still, it doesn't say much good that these volunteers were willing to participate (like it was a video game?) and that someone assumed it would not draw outrage.
The sleepers will awaken...
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Maybe testing the waters to see how the public would react. They need to put more "stuff" in the water..too many objections
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Murphy, TX
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That exercise sounds like some crazy stuff. I hope something like that really doesn't happen! Things doesn't seem to look good these but I hope atleast there won't be any unrest / violence.
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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That exercise sounds like some crazy stuff. I hope something like that really doesn't happen! Things doesn't seem to look good these but I hope atleast there won't be any unrest / violence.
Even being that it was cancelled, they are being trained for it. I'm telling my friends in socal to be getting out. It sounds like TPTB are not optimistic. I would think this exercise would be thought of as unacceptable but I guess not anymore.
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Even being that it was cancelled, they are being trained for it. I'm telling my friends in socal to be getting out. It sounds like TPTB are not optimistic. I would think this exercise would be thought of as unacceptable but I guess not anymore.
They'll try again, it is just a matter of time, maybe they'll build a suburb on a base and hire actors, but they will not relent.

These bailout measures are to slow the inevitable in order to gain advantage.
We are headed for something this country has never seen.
The cities will not be the place to be.
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Old 02-22-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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They'll try again, it is just a matter of time, maybe they'll build a suburb on a base and hire actors, but they will not relent.

These bailout measures are to slow the inevitable in order to gain advantage.
We are headed for something this country has never seen.
The cities will not be the place to be.
Agreed, this was a bad pr experience but they'll learn from it. The base has housing, they don't even have to build one. All you need is one with nobody living there. And the best part is its secret.

I spent the morning checking out the yard and seeing where the trees shade and where the fence is going. I suspect that a lot of small towns will be a lot harder to "search" than they expect. Wonder if that part goes into practice or they assume we are all sheeple.
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