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Old 01-14-2016, 09:51 PM
 
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And even at the time (watching the movie as an upper Midwestern high schooler myself), I was hard pressed to think of anybody where I was who talked that way. I think I just chalked it up to "probably a SoCal thing."

Where I grew up, (some) people might way "warsh" instead of wash, but they call Elton John "Elton," not "El-in."
Oh gosh, did that bring back memories of growing up in Ohio! I have many, many rural relatives who warsh up for supper. Note the word supper rather than dinner.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:42 PM
 
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Oh, please. I'm a fifth-generation Daytonnian, who has lived or worked in communities ranging from Troy to Huber Heights to Oakwood to Centerville among every class of people. (I graduated from CHS and then attended UD.) We all pronounce it "Day-uhn" with a hard glottal stop at the hyphen.
My people are all from there, too! Troy, Tipp, Centerville (Cen-er-ville is how I mostly hear it) Huber Heights, etc. I've never heard the "T" in Dayton pronounced by anyone who lives there.

I notice that I pronounce "Continental" both ways
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:59 PM
 
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The only time I've heard that sort of speech is by the developmentally disabled.

Where is this happening?
My son is developmentally disabled and he says his T's very well, thank you.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:08 PM
 
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As demonstrated throughout this thread, there are plenty of words in which the T is not enunciated in American English, but I think the OP is noticing it in words where it has not been common up until recently. Why is it happening? Who knows, but I find the changes fascinating. Language is definitely not static. It can and does change, sometimes very rapidly.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:13 PM
 
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Remember in the USA there are different ways of talking all over the country. There are regional accents and ways of talking.

If the T is going away, it is just a regional thing where you live, not around the USA as a whole.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:38 PM
 
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Where I grew up, (some) people might way "warsh" instead of wash, but they call Elton John "Elton," not "El-in."
I still say warsh and the 1st president of the United States is pronounced Warshington.

I even knew a girl who would spell it that way.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:44 PM
 
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I have two children who are young adults, in college. My profession puts me in close contact with many people in that particular age group. I have not heard this.

Could it be a regionalism?
Not in Phoenix. As far as I'm concerned it is "ghetto" and "more ghetto". Spelling is deplorable as well. It is a regular race to the bottom in order to be cool.
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:57 AM
 
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Some British English accents/dialects have been doing this for a while. Now it's our turn!
America is way ahead of England in this silent campaign among the English-speaking world to abolish the true "t" sound. A lot of British dialects still enunciate t's as instructed in school.
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Old 01-15-2016, 05:09 AM
 
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Well yeah it's becoming common here.. People most of the time miss "T" word when speaks. I think they really need to understand how to speak words clearly and pronounce them.
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Old 01-15-2016, 05:40 AM
 
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As demonstrated throughout this thread, there are plenty of words in which the T is not enunciated in American English, but I think the OP is noticing it in words where it has not been common up until recently. Why is it happening? Who knows, but I find the changes fascinating. Language is definitely not static. It can and does change, sometimes very rapidly.
You are correct. I pay attention and started noticing it in the last few years ONLY for those words I cited in my
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It is just words where a 't' is doubled ( like get and put ) and the combinations with words like it or on. I hear it on the news and advertisements, so I doubt it's regional, but have no proof that it's not.

I haven't had the opportunity to visit OH since my dad died there in 2010. In any case, I can't remember noticing this speech trend for more than the last couple of years, but have noticed it MUCH more this year than last year.

Again, I'm not saying it's bad or good. I was just wondering if I was the only one noticing. Language morphs - especially English, the best and most flexible language in the world. There is a reason it's the universal language and it's not because the British colonized so much of the world. It's flexible, adaptable, ever changing and when you are visiting ANY foreign country, the BEST language to cuss in.

-o- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_English

-o- The Adventure Of English - 2003 BBC Documentary - Episode 1 - BBC Documentary

-o- The Adventure of English: The Biography of a Language - by Melvyn Bragg

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/adventure-of-english/

Addendum: Just saw a commercial for RotoClipper where the narrator says " ... just push the buh-un ..." instead of "just push the but-un ..." There was no 't' in that word - not even close. I don't think it's regional.

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