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Old 10-18-2022, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Only my first paragraph was about otter's situation. The second (separated from the first by several lines) was on a different, but related, topic, about nutty child-rearing practices (that lead to helpless, easily-offended adults like the ones otter encountered), and wondering how they gained so many adherents around the turn of the millennium.

So now you're assuming that otter has turned "angry and bitter" over the course of her career? Have you considered a career as a fiction writer? I think you owe otter an apology.
I would say that if there's an apology due, it's due from you. After all, I said, "We don't know how her attitude may have actually changed over the years". People do change over time, sometimes drastically.
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Old 10-18-2022, 07:31 PM
 
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All of the people I know who 84 years are old are alive.

I really don't know any dead people. I'm sure that they are not very good conversationalists.

I also don't see dead people.

I can't rep you yet


Very funny post. Love it!
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Old 10-18-2022, 07:47 PM
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I don't know exactly what's going on with this professor, but you can't have a professor who fails most of the students. Especially students who are otherwise successful in their college classes.

When my kids were in college, and feared they might fail a class, I'd ask "do you believe you're in the top half, grade-wise"? When they said yes, absolutely, I'd say you're not going to fail that class.

Universities can't abide some nutso professor who comes in and fails everyone for the pleasure of doing it. If students are otherwise successful in other classes, and in the top half gradewise of that class, they shouldn't be failed.
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Old 10-18-2022, 08:10 PM
 
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I don't know exactly what's going on with this professor, but you can't have a professor who fails most of the students. Especially students who are otherwise successful in their college classes.

When my kids were in college, and feared they might fail a class, I'd ask "do you believe you're in the top half, grade-wise"? When they said yes, absolutely, I'd say you're not going to fail that class.

Universities can't abide some nutso professor who comes in and fails everyone for the pleasure of doing it. If students are otherwise successful in other classes, and in the top half gradewise of that class, they shouldn't be failed.
Nowhere did the article say, he failed most of his students or "everyone". It said 85 students complained out of 350. It also said other Organic Chem faculty protested the decision. It's fair to assume assume that unlike this professor, they have tenure, so they can't be dismissed for failing less than 1/4 of the class, in a course known for its difficulty, and for separating the wheat from the chaff in determining who qualifies to apply to med school. The article also said, that quite a few students wrote letters of support.
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Old 10-18-2022, 08:35 PM
 
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I said, "We don't know how her attitude may have actually changed over the years". People do change over time, sometimes drastically.
For the third time, my "attitude" had NOTHING to do with this; I simply made the corrections electronically.

It's the mere act of being corrected that they can't stand. I was told, in essence, to "lower my standards."

Why you insist on blaming me for this when there's ample evidence of Snowflake Syndrome is beyond me!

Unless you ARE one?
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Old 10-18-2022, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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For the third time, my "attitude" had NOTHING to do with this; I simply made the corrections electronically.

It's the mere act of being corrected that they can't stand. I was told, in essence, to "lower my standards."

Why you insist on blaming me for this when there's ample evidence of Snowflake Syndrome is beyond me!

Unless you ARE one?
It isn't about you. That's not the point. The point I have been making, repeatedly, is that in all of these cases -- yes, including yours -- we are hearing one side of the story. Are we hearing what those under you actually said? Are we hearing their actual perception?
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Old 10-25-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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I think we have a bad system that has a professor do both research and teaching. We should pair up more professors where one does all the teaching and the other does all the research. Usually a professor is much better at one than the other.
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Old 10-25-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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I think we have a bad system that has a professor do both research and teaching. We should pair up more professors where one does all the teaching and the other does all the research. Usually a professor is much better at one than the other.
That sounds expensive. Universities cant afford extra faculty. They can't even afford tenure track faculty to the extent they used to, so they hire adjuncts. Those are the ones doing the teaching. Also, universities rely more on grad students to do the teaching, than they used to. They've been forced into that by all the state budget cuts. That was one of the first things UC Berkeley did after Proposition 13 passed, and resulted in a major budget cut to the school. They set up more grad students to teach as many of their entry-level courses as possible.
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Old 10-26-2022, 06:15 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I don't know exactly what's going on with this professor, but you can't have a professor who fails most of the students. Especially students who are otherwise successful in their college classes.
In engineering and science courses, it is common for certain professors to fail half the class or more by making their exams nearly impossible to pass.

That is why most kids who start out never make it to graduation. They either flunk out or switch to a more suitable major.

It is very Darwinian. Law of the jungle. Military boot camp.
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Old 10-26-2022, 06:45 AM
 
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That sounds expensive. Universities cant afford extra faculty. They can't even afford tenure track faculty to the extent they used to, so they hire adjuncts. Those are the ones doing the teaching. Also, universities rely more on grad students to do the teaching, than they used to. They've been forced into that by all the state budget cuts. That was one of the first things UC Berkeley did after Proposition 13 passed, and resulted in a major budget cut to the school. They set up more grad students to teach as many of their entry-level courses as possible.
If they cannot afford to hire faculty who can actually teach, given the tuition that they charge, then the colleges seriously need to rethink their money management. Everybody else is forced to do more with less. Maybe get rid of the "research" professors who are paid 6 figures to do nothing except bully their grad students.
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