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Old 10-01-2011, 08:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It would be quite different if Congress voted on individual assassination of citizens, without due process.
That may be Constitutional, unlike what has happened.
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Old 10-01-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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I'm shocked he actually supported Anwar Awlaki, a dangerous criminal.


Is he really sane??


Ron Paul criticizes Obama for U.S. role in killing of Awlaki - latimes.com

I think you are confused. He was supporting the U.S. constitution.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:00 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm shocked he actually supported Anwar Awlaki, a dangerous criminal.
How do you define dangerous? That is the core of this argument, which reflects the core values of the constitution. Is the president and the heads of the security agencies now "the deciders" on who is and isn't dangerous among our populace? Is anyone who disagrees with their high and mighty decisions going to be labeled a supporter of whoever the boogeyman is during that time?

Are you safer now? Can we stop getting groped at airports, randomly having our phone calls/text messages screened, being subject to no-fly lists, and having search and seizure rights revoked?
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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yea the poor american citizen islamic fanatic alwaki who was responsible for US deaths, how dare the US army kill him, he MUST be allowed to plot more american deaths, hail the lunatic ron paul!
The only lunatics are the ones who treat human beings like animals and expect others to fall in line. The only lunatics are the ones who support the continued failed policy we have in the Middle East.
As long as we illegally occupy sovereign nations we are at risk. Our own CIA report told us that. But instead lets keep doing more of the same. It didn't work in the early 50's when we started overthrowing democratically elected leaders and it doesn't work now.
We would have avoided 9/11 completely but that is lost on some.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Let this be a lesson to any American who decides to leave tihs country and join a terrorist organization intent on killing Americans. You face dire consequences, including being stripped of your right to due process when we treat you like the terrorist that you have defined yourself to be.
Luckily for the people, you don't get to make that call. What's your new motto going to be? Trials are for only when you say so.

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I believe that Al-Awlaki renounced his American citizenship BY IMPLICATION when he left the country and became a terrorist. To hell with him. Who cares what Ron Paul says? He's becoming less relevant by the week.
Because your silly thought process tells you, so we should follow it instead of the Constitution. What could possible go wrong with that?

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Just like Pubs to make an issue of this since they have absolutely no meaningful, useful plans coming from their party to help this country get beyond the enormous problems that they created under Bush...and are still perpetuating.
Just like the uninformed to not follow the Constitution.
btw the Housing Bill that destroyed our economy was bi partisan.
Ron Paul voted against it because he understands the economy and knew, from past history, what would happen. He told us on day one. But we should listen to your candidates because even though are wrong on the big issues they sound cool.
"It's not my fault, they told me. Government intervention really, really does work in the long run. It will this time I promise"
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It would be quite different if Congress voted on individual assassination of citizens, without due process.
That may be Constitutional, unlike what has happened.
you use Letters of Marque and Reprisal just like Ron Paul said to use to get Bin Laden, instead of spending billions chasing a ghost.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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Paul will probably gain as many supporters as he loses over his comments but he lost me.
Ron Paul wrote about political assassinations in his summative book "Liberty Defined." That books details his stance on many issues. For you to claim to be a RP supporter without having read that book is sad. What did you base your support of him on.....his lovely blonde hair?

Ron Paul has been and always will be an ardent supporter of the constitution. For those of you who would rather he flip flop when public opinion doesn't go his way what exactly are you looking for in a candidate?
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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I'm shocked he actually supported Anwar Awlaki, a dangerous criminal.


Is he really sane??

I'm not shocked you came to the illogical conclusion that he supports this or any other alleged criminal. What he does support is a trial for American citizens...including you (assuming you're an American citizen).

To answer your question yes he is 100% sane and 100% consistent with the constitution. What happened here is illegal but thanks to nonthinking citizens like you the current and future administrations are emboldened to continue the policy.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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Im glad Ron Paul supporters now accept that he is more liberal tham Obama.
Informed Ron Paul supporters have known that RP is a libertarian all along. You aren't telling us anything we don't already know. However, given that you are clearly ignorant, you should know that libertarians are generally just as socially liberal than democrats are, if not more so. The key difference is that our liberalism is a logical consequence of our desire for limited government.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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I'm shocked he actually supported Anwar Awlaki, a dangerous criminal.


Is he really sane??


Ron Paul criticizes Obama for U.S. role in killing of Awlaki - latimes.com

Talk about SPIN and the intentional propogation of lies by the OP!

No, Ron Paul does not support terrorists or terrorism, rather he wants the US government to address terrorism within the confines of the US Constitution. You know, a little think like actually charging someone with acts of treason before assasinating them.

Do you really think that as a elected Representative who has sworn to uphold the US Constitution, that questioning actions seen as Un Constitutional makes one a "clown"? Really? Or, does it make him the only man willing to keep his oath?

Pay no attention to that slipperly slope of presidental enemy lists and assasination orders which you apparently endorse.
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