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Originally Posted by dixiegirl7
I have family in both Iraq and Afghanistan right now and have had various family members and friends there since the first bomb dropped on Afaghanistan. One of my cousins flew one of first missions over Afghanistan after 9/11. I have a lot of firsthand accounts of how the people feel about their new freedom. The changes in Iraq have been phenomenal.
I am not going to question your service to the country, but your attitude doesn't really match up. My 'contribution' is to be supportive of those in the military and what they are trying to accomplish over there and not be denigrating our country and our military just for political reasons.
In other words you yourself have really done nothing but cheap talk and using your dime-store "patriotism" as an excuse to attack anyone who disagrees with you (which means you also don't have a clue about "freedom" in the first place).
Although one would think that most normal folks of any political persuasion, would have had enuff by now of both the human and the financial costs of eight years of Dubya (now Obama's "inheritance"), to not want to elect another belligerent (chicken)hawk. So your sort of "support" reminds me of that joke about old "blood and guts" Gen'l. Patton... "yeah, our blood, and his guts."
In other words you yourself have really done nothing but cheap talk and using your dime-store "patriotism" as an excuse to attack anyone who disagrees with you (which means you also don't have a clue about "freedom" in the first place).
Although one would think that most normal folks of any political persuasion, would have had enuff by now of both the human and the financial costs of eight years of Dubya (now Obama's "inheritance"), to not want to elect another belligerent (chicken)hawk. So your sort of "support" reminds me of that joke about old "blood and guts" Gen'l. Patton... "yeah, our blood, and his guts."
And I highly doubt you served a day yourself, if so, you were probably invited to leave. BTW, I never said I think we should stay in Iraq or Afghanistan and that is not what the speech Romney gave is about either. If you were former military, you would recognize that. Having a strong country is not the same as being in a war necessarily.
Also, Obama took what he 'inherited' and not only kept it going but has involved us in several other countries wars that we have no business in. You must really hate him....so why would you want ot put him back in for four more years? Seems like you don't really know what you support.
Your last statement is just really insensitive and ignorant, but what would one expect?
Last edited by dixiegirl7; 10-09-2011 at 08:39 PM..
Now point out where the Constitution tasks us with fighting for any country but America.
Non sequitur.
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Originally Posted by burdell
And you people who think the world needs a leader should THINK! Just WHY does the world need a leader? Care to tell us how the USSR's attempt at being a leader worked out for them? America should take care of America, PERIOD!
Do you think the UUSR's attempt to be a world leader failed in a vacuum? Do you honestly not understand the role that U.S. foreign policy played in that failure?
It's not an issue of whether the world "needs" a leader. Other nations will always try to project their power and influence. Some nation or nations will lead the world. And that being the case, I ask again: who do you want to lead the world? "Nobody" is not an option. So if not the U.S., then who?
In other words you yourself have really done nothing but cheap talk and using your dime-store "patriotism" as an excuse to attack anyone who disagrees with you (which means you also don't have a clue about "freedom" in the first place).
Although one would think that most normal folks of any political persuasion, would have had enuff by now of both the human and the financial costs of eight years of Dubya (now Obama's "inheritance"), to not want to elect another belligerent (chicken)hawk. So your sort of "support" reminds me of that joke about old "blood and guts" Gen'l. Patton... "yeah, our blood, and his guts."
I'm sure Dixiegirl and I don't agree all the way on foreign policy but I think this post is a bit of a hit job and a low blow.
America used to be the city on the hill, a beacon of light and liberty and justice and prosperity for all the nations of the world.
All the sudden now we are becoming the city in the hole, a prime example of national corruption, irresponsibility, neo-fascism, injustice, and economic idiocracy ...
Yeah America is already leading the world in mounting collateral damage and as an example of international crime ... We ignore the Geneva convention and all other international law at our convenience and forsake our constitutional national sovereignty in favor of corporate global government and centralized international banking.
Yeah America is already leading the world, straight to hell in a hand basket if we don't change things.
Last edited by Ironmaw1776; 10-09-2011 at 10:50 PM..
America used to be the city on the hill, a beacon of light and liberty and justice and prosperity for all the nations of the world.
All the sudden now we are becoming the city in the hole, a prime example of national corruption, neo-fascism, injustice, and economic idiocracy ...
Yeah America is already leading the world in mounting collateral damage and as an example of international crime ... We ignore the Geneva convention at out convenience and forsake our constitutional national sovereignty in favor of corporate global government and centralized international banking.
Yeah America is already leading the world, straight to hell in a hand basket if we don't change things.
"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. " (Federal Reserve Bank? Counsel on Foreign Relations?)
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
Last edited by Ironmaw1776; 10-09-2011 at 11:02 PM..
They got an embassy larger than the Vatican with a lot of employees, courtesy of the American taxpayer. Sorry...I just had to throw that in. If it was about 9/11, we should have been in Saudi Arabia.
But, but, but, (sputter) the Bin Ladin family (Saudi's) are oil buddies of the Bush's. The ONLY plane allowed to fly that day were the Bin Ladin's leaving the scene!
Your returning citizens were barred from landing in your country and low on fuel had to fly elsewhere to land (Canada) but the Bin Ladin's were allowed to take off and fly out, probably with an escort to make sure they weren't shot down by mistake.
Cripes, this duplicity is enough to make a grown man cry!
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