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Old 06-14-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Rick Roma View Post
Getting the worst POTUS of all time out of office is what I care about.

Exactly. Romney will be good. He is a good man, and he is honest. Obama is a liar, and he is evil. He is a Marxist/Socialist (that is how he was raised). He hates America.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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But that's what being a politician is all about: being able to give different promises to different voters to get a high number of votes. He will lose a few votes, because some people won't trust him, but he will gain a bunch because of dissatisfaction with the current president/party and the promised "change". Being a wishy-washy politician seems to be a good strategy for gaining votes at this time.

Campaign funds affect a candidates ability to win far more than anything else, and being wishy-washy seems to be a good campaign strategy to get campaign funds.

You never had to wonder where Ronald Reagan stood on anything, did you? Or, George Bush for that matter.

Romney reminds me more and more of Bill Clinton.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Exactly. Romney will be good. He is a good man, and he is honest. Obama is a liar, and he is evil. He is a Marxist/Socialist (that is how he was raised). He hates America.
Then I gather you strongly agree with Romney that corporations are people, too.

And no, I'm not some gullible fool who thinks Obama is a Marxist/Socialist. Obviously, you're clueless, what that means, though. How sad.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Well...that's his take on the issues this week. Next week, he's reserved the right to shake his Etch-A-Sketch and change his mind. That means he's blatantly telling you that you can't trust him. He'll lie to tell you what you want to hear this week, then tell somebody else something different next week.

Bottom line is that you really don't know where he stands on any issue.

No real Conservative would be that wishy-washy.
I agree, but how is that different from any other politician?

Spoiler
A bus full of politicians crashed on a farm. The next day the Sheriff visited the crash site and asked the farmer what happened. The farmer told the Sheriff about the crash and said he buried the politicians. The Sheriff asked “Were they ALL dead?†The farmer replied “Well, some said they weren’t but you know how politicians lie.â€


There is not a single politician, alive or dead, that has not lied. Any voter who thinks their candidate speaks the truth is utterly naive and delusional. All any voter can do is research the deeds of a candidate, and ignore everything they have to say.

Romney's deeds clearly indicate that he is not a conservative. But then again, neither was Bush (43). The voter had a choice between Bush & Gore, then Bush & Kerry, and they chose Bush both times because the alternatives would have been much worse for the nation. That does not mean Bush was good for the nation anymore than Romney would be good for the nation. It simply means that if Romney is elected President the voters believe that he would do less damage than the alternative.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Then I gather you strongly agree with Romney that corporations are people, too.

And no, I'm not some gullible fool who thinks Obama is a Marxist/Socialist. Obviously, you're clueless, what that means, though. How sad.
Well, stick your head in the sand then. But, Obama was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, an avowed communist. He hung out with Marxists and socialists (that's in his book) and there is plenty of documentation as to his activism with other Marxists. If you don't believe it, it is YOU who are clueless. Do the research, instead of looking totally ignorant. There have been articles aplenty written by some who knew him in those days, and others by people who simply did the work of digging into his past.

He was also a member of the "New Party" (communist) in Chicago, and there has been a photo of him posted accepting his membership (this was posted as far back as 2008). Obviously, you don't read much.

Corporations are "people" according to past court decisions. Why? Because corporations are nothing more than a group of investors (people). That's putting it very simply. Again, you are showing your ignorance. Better do some study, huh?

As a former home school parent, I do have some books on Constitutional law here, written for home school parents, that explain some of these court decisions and what they meant.

So easy to just brush this off though, right? Just ignore it and belittle the messenger! Do some research. You might learn something!

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Old 06-15-2012, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Is Mitt Romney really a Conservative?

Most people will say no. Yet, a great number of people who call themselves Conservatives are intending to vote for him anyhow.

Why? Are you a Conservative committed to Conservative principles, or are you not?
Simple answer, and what most will boil down to "He is not Obama"

I'm not voting for the Mormon clown born with a silver spoon in his mouth, or the ineffective President we have now.

Of course, when I tell other conservatives this "well a vote for anyone who isn't Romney is a vote for Obama..." Which is an asinine statement if I've ever heard one.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I love how scarred you Obama haters are scared he will be re elected
You ought to be. He is an ass. He is an empty suit, and his intent is to destroy America as we know it. He is well on his way to accomplishing that.

Barack Obama (Barry) and Michelle hate America. They are enemies of freedom. Anyone who supports them are also enemies. Period.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You ought to be. He is an ass. He is an empty suit, and his intent is to destroy America as we know it. He is well on his way to accomplishing that.

Barack Obama (Barry) and Michelle hate America. They are enemies of freedom. Anyone who supports them are also enemies. Period.

Bull....

Name one policy that will destroy America, just one.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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You mean if the incompetent fool, meaning Romney, is elected.
No, he meant what he said. Romney has a record he can run on. Obama's record is noting but failure. They can't even talk about it, because there is nothing.

"The private sector is doing fine." Right. Tell that to the millions of unemployed.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Is Mitt Romney really a Conservative?

Most people will say no. Yet, a great number of people who call themselves Conservatives are intending to vote for him anyhow.

Why? Are you a Conservative committed to Conservative principles, or are you not?
Romney is not a Conservative Republican and Obama is not a Liberal Democrat. Both are quite moderate actually. Turn the same question around: Liberals, why vote for Obama. The answer is the same in both cases. For a Conservative, Romney is worlds better than the alternative: Four more years of Obama. For a Liberal, Obama is vastly better than electing Romney as president.

Kind of a stupid question in my opinion.

The really amusing part is the folks who say, "There is no difference, they're exactly the same!!" and then seeing those same people rant and rave about how stupid, incompetent, out of touch and useless the opposing candidate is. Well, if the two men are exactly the same then they're exactly the same. Throwing insults and calling one candidate names means it applies equally to both. So come election night, flip a coin and vote accordingly or don't vote at all. If they're exactly the same, it really makes no difference who wins, right?

Sincerely,
A Dead Center Independent Who Thinks Both Parties are a Bad Joke

PS: American needs Obama gone. He's done enough damage already.
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