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Old 08-15-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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"...while Republicans have been clamoring to make this election a false dichotomy between the private sector and the public sector, Paul Ryan — heir to a private fortune made by building public highways — is a gaping pothole in that plan. Paul Ryan is a living, breathing GOP example of how public infrastructure and private entrepreneurship work hand-in-hand."
Paul Ryan didn’t build that! - Salon.com
First it's laughable that the Salon writer goes back to the Ryan family history in the 1800's in the effort to try to discredit him. I guess it is true that the left is really going into desperation mode.

Generally this is a phony attack. A couple years ago in WA state we had a tea party candidate for US Senate named Clint Didier, a former football player who is now a farmer in Eastern WA. He was against farm subsidies, but under the system he was eligible, and so he collected them. The left screamed that he was a big hypocrite. He calmly responded that he didn't like the rules, that he would vote to overturn them, but that he had to operate within the rules. Seattle Times columnist Bruce Ramsey did a column about the attack, utterly dismantling it and exposing it as phony.
Opinion | In defense of Clint Didier | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: NC
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From the party of "Do as I say, not as I do," and "F*ck you, I've got mine," comes Paul Ryan, a shining example of both. What a surprise!
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Lefties are so nasty and angry, especially when they get desperate. Obama is toast and you guys are freaking out! I LOVE IT!
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Generally this is a phony attack. A couple years ago in WA state we had a tea party candidate for US Senate named Clint Didier, a former football player who is now a farmer in Eastern WA. He was against farm subsidies, but under the system he was eligible, and so he collected them. The left screamed that he was a big hypocrite. He calmly responded that he didn't like the rules, that he would vote to overturn them, but that he had to operate within the rules. Seattle Times columnist Bruce Ramsey did a column about the attack, utterly dismantling it and exposing it as phony.
Opinion | In defense of Clint Didier | Seattle Times Newspaper
Because the rules said he had to take the susbidy he was opposed to, right?
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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So to be clear, you want to punish Paul Ryan for something his father and grandfather did?

Are you really claiming that Paul Ryan cannot speak for a smaller government because of something his family (not himself) has done?
Not at all.

Here's the the deal, Paul Ryan has directly benefited from government programs specifically designed to help people in need.

Now he wants to slam the door in other people's faces. Many people find that hypocritical to say the least.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Just like all conservative republicans, Paul Ryan wants to steal money from the majority of the population and redistribute it to billionaires.
Only in the Left's Alice-in-Wonderland world is letting people keep more of the money they've earned and saved "stealing from the majority."
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If Paul Ryan's ideas were in place, his father would probably have been putting the money he put into SS into a private account and some would have likely been transferred to him (or inheritied by him) upon his father's death.

You people are really grasping at straws here....his father paid into Social Security. This was money to which his father was entitled. Someone should get the $$$.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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Only those under 55 and this is so that the program will exist rather than collapse.

Are you familiar with exponents? Or that you must have a productive base to pay for benefits, but once you have more people drawing than working, the pool of $$ will dry up?

Probably not. Do you suggest will depend on dollar trees? Or rainbows and unicorns?
This seems to be a difficult concept for people from both parties to grasp.

The same logic applies to defense spending as well...
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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Only in the Left's Alice-in-Wonderland world is letting people keep more of the money they've earned and saved "stealing from the majority."
Only in the right's FantasyLand is funneling more $$$ to the MIC, no questions asked, not a redistribution of wealth.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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Not at all.

Here's the the deal, Paul Ryan has directly benefited from government programs specifically designed to help people in need.

Now he wants to slam the door in other people's faces. Many people find that hypocritical to say the least.
Could you cite chapter and verse of the Ryan plan that "slam[s] the door in ... people's faces?"
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