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These are the same people that would vote for someone who has an incredible lack of mathematical skills, limited geography knowledge, unbelievable weak social skills and a sense of entitlement to the point that he and his wife feels like "it is their turn" to occupy the Whitehouse. To top all of this madness off, you have a group of people in Congress that have made two promises BEFORE the president was even in the oval office. The first was to make sure that anything that he does, fail even if it hurts the American public and finally a pledge to a lobbyist (norquist) not to raise taxes under any condition. Because of these two unholy agreements nothing without extreme compromises will ever get done the way that it should. Ironically, faux and frauds have mindtrucked people into forgetting these important facts as to why things are the way that they are.
Whether he wants to destroy the economy or not is irrelevant. What matters is that he is doing a suburb job of accomplishing this. Grade A loser. Time to hit the unemployment line.
You know, I think that there is quite a bit of room for reasonable and knowledgable individuals to have an intelligent discussion what what policys need to be put in place going forward, but it is utterly ridiculous to even begin to make an argue that Obama has done anything close to resembling the destruction of the economy. Absolute and total ignorance.
I don't think that the President, or Mr. Romney want to destroy the country or the economy.
However, their policies......
Not doing anything about the medicare bubble. Not doing anything about the social security problem.
Neither candidates plan adds up, or cuts the deficit in a significant way (hell Romneys would grow it).
Its why I can't vote for the D or the R this time around.
Romney will grow it? You can say that after 0bama grew it almost $6 trillion? Even if 0bama had ZERO growth to our nation debt in a second term, he will have still added more debt than any president in history ever has, or likely ever will.
The first step in replacing the American ideology with a failed rehash of a socialist system is to make people dependant on the government.
Obama's demonstrated actions clearly show he is doing everything to boost unemployment which eliiminates employer supplied health coverage just as he approves Obamacare which has little to do with healthcare. video of obama attacking Hillary's healthcare plan because it would force people to buy it. Oops he changed his mind.
Obama didn't author Obamacare, it was handed to him. Obama is a dupe for a socio-political direction the country does not want.
He said there were shovel rweady jobs then laughed in retrospect when asked about them.
Obama predicted a low unemployment rate if his rescue package was passed...ooops.
give out free cell phones to potential voters and give a big payday to the large campaing donor cell phone company owner.
Solar energy can be described a notheg short of money laundering.
delayed gulf oil drilling
Obama promised energy costs would skyrocket under his plan, it is, but we still don't know what his plan is but he made good on his promise of higher energy costs. Who would think it a good idea to esentially kill the economy by eliminating its support sytem. Intelligent transition is needed to make big changes. it is foolhardy and incompetent to destroy the quality of life and the economy for an ideology but that is exactly what obama's handelers are doing.
obama suffocated industries with regulation which bypassed congress....required to fulfill his promise of skyrocketing energy costs
Throw in a situation where the economy took a hit obama steps in and claims he inherited a mess. that is easier to rationalize his destruction of the economy. then the media turns against the people and gives its allegience to the new world order.
When you look at Obama's dismal record you can only conclude Obama is out to destroy our economy or is totally inept. your choice.
This is not about any issue other than installing a socialist regime and 're-writing our history'.
How silly. Obama only wants to return to the sensible mixed economy model that built our country from the 1940s to 2000. Since 2000, we have been spiraling down the tubes with unfunded wars, tax cuts, rampant fraud, speculation, and oaths to corporate shills like Grover Norquist. The corporate class has hollowed out this country for their own gain. We just need to get back to the center. No, it is not socialism to support public schools and libraries, to rebuild decrepit infrastructure, care for our people, and protect our environment. It is plain old common sense. And it works.
You know, I think that there is quite a bit of room for reasonable and knowledgable individuals to have an intelligent discussion what what policys need to be put in place going forward, but it is utterly ridiculous to even begin to make an argue that Obama has done anything close to resembling the destruction of the economy. Absolute and total ignorance.
Well, we have a fifty year high for Americans living in poverty.
We had 43 months in a row of over 8% unemployment, which is more then the last 60 years combined.
We added 15 million people to food stamps, which equals over 300,000 new people signing up for food stamps every single month of 0bama's presidency.
0bama added over 1,300,000 Americans to social Security Disability Insurance, which equals almost 30,000 new people signing up for SSDI every single month of 0bama's presidency.
0bama may not have destroyed our economy, but the middle class has been punched in the gut and kicked in the groin for 46 months. Even Joe Biden agrees, he said the middle class has been buried for the past four years.
Romney will grow it? You can say that after 0bama grew it almost $6 trillion? Even if 0bama had ZERO growth to our nation debt in a second term, he will have still added more debt than any president in history ever has, or likely ever will.
Romney wants to increase military spending (keep in mind we're still engaged in one war and just finished another one) AND cut taxes. Exactly what was done 8-10 years ago when we had no deficit. What math tells us that will NOT further balloon our national debt, let alone begin to pay off what is already owed?
How silly. Obama only wants to return to the sensible mixed economy model that built our country from the 1940s to 2000. Since 2000, we have been spiraling down the tubes with unfunded wars, tax cuts, rampant fraud, speculation, and oaths to corporate shills like Grover Norquist. The corporate class has hollowed out this country for their own gain. We just need to get back to the center. No, it is not socialism to support public schools and libraries, to rebuild decrepit infrastructure, care for our people, and protect our environment. It is plain old common sense. And it works.
Ahhh, that explains why he wants to return us to the economy of 1940, and a fifty year poverty level is a giant leap to the bad old days of the past.
Whether he wants to destroy the economy or not is irrelevant. What matters is that he is doing a suburb job of accomplishing this. Grade A loser. Time to hit the unemployment line.
How disingenuous and unsurprising.
I think you would be talking about Mitch McConnell here. He wants to tank the economy to push Obama out of power.
Yes, I am sure that Obama is personally responsible for the folks who paid too much for their houses and took out liar loans and had the values drop for six years. That is what absolutely destroyed demand, and no president can fix that without raising revenues or exploding the deficit, given the first was off limits, the second was inevitable. And given the magnitude of the meltdown, all the stimulus could do was prevent a Depression. And it did. Funny how the GOP narrative has been so uniformly deceitful and few if any will cop to the realities of the ****bomb that Obama and the rest of us inherited. Even he had no idea how awful it was. If you really grasp the magnitude of the meltdown, it is actually pretty impressive how well we are doing. But winning at any cost has become the GOP's agenda lately, and telling lies of unfathomable magnitude daily seem to be the party line, parroted gleefully by millions. It's really become a vomitous political culture, entirely devoid of any sense of dignity, fairness, and common purpose will the rest of the citizenry.
I don't think either person wants to destroy the economy they just have two different views and now its up to us to decide what view we think has the best chance of success.
Romney wants to increase military spending (keep in mind we're still engaged in one war and just finished another one) AND cut taxes. Exactly what was done 8-10 years ago when we had no deficit. What math tells us that will NOT further balloon our national debt, let alone begin to pay off what is already owed?
Romney may want to do that, but improving our economy will be his first business, since we need a growing economy to grow anything else.
Too bad 0bama has left so many economic time bombs that are all set to explode January 1st 2013. Any growth we will hope for will be delayed while we dig out of the avalanche of 0bama economic destruction that will herald in the new year.
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