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Old 10-25-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'm voting libertarian. Gary Johnson is promising to cut the federal government by 50%. Hes the only one serious about cutting spending, and not decreasing taxes, balancing the budget, and giving more power back to the people.
As a Libertarian I'd be with you if we could afford a symbolic vote. The only way this is going to change is if EVERYONE gets off their party lies addictions and stops voting altogether. Any presidential election that has less than 50% of the registered voters poll, should be voided.

If they'd allow us to have a true constitutional candidate (they won't), the interest would spark a wildfire, and he/she would win by a landslide. Now, we are only given puppets. Johnson wouldn't be able to do a thing in Washington because he'd be surrounded by Senate and House puppets.

Libertarians are the true moderates, and we don't have a hope at the moment.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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As a Libertarian I'd be with you if we could afford a symbolic vote. The only way this is going to change is if EVERYONE gets off their party lies addictions and stops voting altogether. Any presidential election that has less than 50% of the registered voters poll, should be voided.

If they'd allow us to have a true constitutional candidate (they won't), the interest would spark a wildfire, and he/she would win by a landslide. Now, we are only given puppets. Johnson wouldn't be able to do a thing in Washington because he'd be surrounded by Senate and House puppets.

Libertarians are the true moderates, and we don't have a hope at the moment.

If you vote for Romney, and you're worried about the deficit I wouldn't call you a libertarian, I'd call you a hypocrite.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: :0)1 CORINTHIANS,13*"KYRIE, ELEISON"*"CHRISTE ELEISON"
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Whether he wants to destroy the economy or not is irrelevant. What matters is that he is doing a suburb job of accomplishing this. Grade A loser. Time to hit the unemployment line.



Sad, but true!
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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What is there in it for President Obama to do that? Why do you all keep harping this? I don't know of anyone that wants our economy destroyed. Just a campaign tactic by the GOP?
He is a marxist, wed to the concept that America is intrinsically evil and must pay for it's "trangressions" agains the developing world. He is an insane.

Obama has been raised by marxist ideology and has come to believe that America is not the cure for the problems of the world, but is the cause. As a result, he has embraced a philosophy (which is reflected of the beliefs of ALL of his "mentors" as a youth) that capitalism, American liberty, and a large middle class society is CONTRARY to an ideal existence.

Obama has been raised and conditioned to OPPOSE the America that we have grown to appreciate and expect for our children.

In this election we have a choice. Vote for

1. A failed president who has been raised on the concepts of Marxism and believes in a Soviet style utopia in which peasants work to support a small group of elites. This is the promise of slavery for most citizens.

Or

2. The concept of the founding fathers and the Constitution. In which individual liberty is praised and promoted. There is no guarantee of success in this model- only the opportunity for success and to live free.


Obama must go, as communism has never worked, anywhere. It is a sad, fanciful, political ploy used by tyrants to exploit the masses in an effort to gain absolute power.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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I don't think either person wants to destroy the economy they just have two different views and now its up to us to decide what view we think has the best chance of success.
Unfortunately, both their plans are based on incomplete data and bad science, and neither one has much chance of succeeding.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:58 PM
 
Location: it depends
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What is there in it for President Obama to do that? Why do you all keep harping this? I don't know of anyone that wants our economy destroyed. Just a campaign tactic by the GOP?
"You all?" I never, ever have said that Obama wants to destroy our economy. It is clear as a bell that he has no clue about the economy, or jobs, or wealth, or prosperity. He is not as smart as he looks, and his vocabulary is bigger than his IQ--but I believe him to be totally incompetent, not evil.

What else explains the notion that he could increase jobs by driving up the cost of employing people, draining consumer's spending power with skyrocketing electricity bills, shutter thousands of industrial facilities, buying roadworthy cars in order to crush them, threatening one industry after another, and further complicating an incomprehensible tax code?

He has done a remarkable job of damaging the economy--millions are in needless poverty as a result--but it's not on purpose. He just doesn't know what he is doing, in my opinion.

But I do understand those who cannot believe anyone is that stupid.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You are implying, and you W@R#@#$@# liars always do, that Obama caused the Great Recession. This narrative is so utterly deceitful, it really speaks volumes about the people spreading it. From what I have seen of Romney/Ryan, you folks are perfect for each other.
0bama's policies, and his terrible leadership lead to an even worse economy then we would have had if he had done nothing.

Remember, the democrats had huge majorities in the congress and senate, and for a few months they had super majority senate control. Did this president accomplish anything with all this power, and $5 trillion in new spending? No. 0bama had every president's dream, complete and utter control, and he wasted it, like a complete fool.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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How silly. Obama only wants to return to the sensible mixed economy model that built our country from the 1940s to 2000. Since 2000, we have been spiraling down the tubes with unfunded wars, tax cuts, rampant fraud, speculation, and oaths to corporate shills like Grover Norquist. The corporate class has hollowed out this country for their own gain. We just need to get back to the center. No, it is not socialism to support public schools and libraries, to rebuild decrepit infrastructure, care for our people, and protect our environment. It is plain old common sense. And it works.


Nice DNC talking points!

What built our economy following the 1940s was the condition of the rest of the industrialized world following WWII, but this situation was temporary.

By 1976, our trade surplus with the rest of the world was gone and we have been losing ground ever since.

Free trade agreements like NAFTA and the 2000 China Trade Act have combined with government regulation and sky high labor costs to seal our economic fate.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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His rampaging regulators have been strangling our country and economy with thousands of pages of new rules that will preclude anybody from hiring anyone in substantial numbers.

ObamaCrare is certainly a major incentive-killer for hiring folks, as emphaszied by the fact that the instructions for determing whether a person is part-time or full time consists of 18 single spaced pages!!!!!!!!

It's also loaded with tons of tax bombs throughout the sixtdeen-thousand plus pages (bill plus ensuing regulations which are still being written!!!!) of that monstrosity.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:55 AM
 
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What is there in it for President Obama to do that? Why do you all keep harping this? I don't know of anyone that wants our economy destroyed. Just a campaign tactic by the GOP?
It makes sense when you realize that Obama is basically a modernized communist (ie: Progressive).

Historically Communists have hated the middle class (the Bourgeoisie) because they support the "unfair" liberal economic system the Communists want to "change" and move "forward" from.

Destroy the middle class economy and you're left with only the puppets(the poor) and the puppet-masters(Progressive/Communist elites).

The trick is to destroy the economy without being blamed by encouraging foodstamp usage, welfare, universal taxpayer funded healthcare and all sorts of government assistance combined with various regulatory disincentives towards business expansion and creation. Execute this plan carefully and with a little media assistance the resulting destruction will actually be blamed the people trying to save the economy(ie: read about how Chavez took over Venezuela).
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