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All states I know of have the same policies, it isn't just Florida. We all have the choice of just having medicare or having medicare plus a supliment in the form of a HMO, or a PPO. Where did you get the idea it was just Florida? My mother in law had the same choices when she lived in Va, in the 80s. Medicaid is for people who are not on medicare and fall under the poverty line. The exception is for long term care, even then they can not receive medicare unless they are under the poverty line with no assets....
Not exactly true, but you're on the right track. I'd have to write a 200 page post to explain. But there are a variety of plans available in most states. One problem for me is that the benefits have gotten a lot better and the people who are receiving them are doing all the complaining!
Maybe Chica was talking about something else. Medicaid is entirely different from Medicare. Medicaid is income based and Medicare is not. If a person is on both Medicare and Medicare, the term is "dual eligible." When a person is eligible for Medicare, Medicare is the primary insurer. If the beneficiary is indigent, the individual state's Medicaid often covers the co-pays and deductibles.
However, Long term Care is not covered by Medicare at all. So a very large percentage of elderly and disabled persons living in nursing homes depend on their state's Medicaid program. When a state cuts Medicaid spending, it has a devastating effect on that population.
For example, in Florida the cuts have resulted in a reduction of nursing home employees and an increase in abuse and neglect. In many counties, complaints about nursing home abuse are on the rise because of cuts to Medicaid. Therefore, it is critical that the Federal Government has some control over how Medicaid funds are spent. Recently a judge in New York put a temporary injunction on cuts that would reduce the number of home visits to people who require in-home care. Medicaid eligibility, Food Stamps and other forms of state assistance, are determined by each state. However, the Federal Government has guidelines they're supposed to follow. I realize everyone keeps yelling "give the states more rights" but when you're sick and disabled, you can't just pack up and move to the state that offers the best care.
Early Voting just kicked off today in the Sunshine State and we are off to a great start, Some of the northern counties that lean Romney/Ryan had trouble with the machine and voters in Hudson, Fla were told to put the votes in a box and they would tabulated at another time. And then 2 hours later the machine worked, an elderly woman was there and told her experience of what happened at her poll.
Its kind of scary to hear that votes are in a box somewhere....
Well in an affluent area in Fla 5,000 voters came out to early vote at this one Library. I live in that area and was quite amazed to see the difference between the zeal of why people are voting for whom they are voting.
A good number of Republicans actually believe Obama is a communist. They believe honestly that he is a socialist. They truly feel he is bad for America. They will admit they dont know Romney's agenda, but believe and have faith its better than Obama.
The Obama supporters appear to be passionate and are standing with the President. There is a different energy that comes with when you believe in someone vs disliking your opponent and willing to take anyone in place of the one you dislike.
When there is good energy it is synergistic and that always prevails. It was funny to see blacks and whites talking in code to feel each other out to see who the other was going to vote for. At the end We saw obama supporters taking pics with each other, hugging and saying God bless you. I did the same.
As one elderly white woman said to me and my family in line with her veteran husband both supporting Obama, "hate will never prevail, history will repeat itself again and us uniting to re elect the President, i am proud to be a part of history once again" What a moment...
Regardless of whom you are voting for, know this, every election you have contributed to history itself What a great country. God Bless you, God bless President Obama and the First Family and God Bless the United States of America!!!
i really can't imagine how anybody could support having
their currency degraded, and having to pay more for everything that they need to live
their overall wealth declining by 40% since obama was elected
housing values being depreciated
undermining the small business sector with massive regulation
green energy fiasco, and money diverted from energy programs that might actually help up get energy independent
rents rising due to federal reserve manipulation
illegal immigrants being brought in to compete with them for jobs and wages
wars, and then lying about wars
foreign aid spending like there is no tomorrow, including helping other countries develop THEIR oil resources
destroying cars in the cash for clunkers program so poor people couldn't get cheap cars anymore
the mismanaged BP spill money (handled by the wall street pay czar, oddly enough-who did a real BANG-UP job with that, and i see now he is also the penn state victim czar)
rising fuel prices (notice, however how they manage to drop just before the election-even though obama has NOTHING to do with fuel prices, , other than the iran boycott that is), fact- Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.
fast and furious disaster-with our GOVERNMENT RUNNING GUNS TO MEXICO, and people being murdered. Sadly, the media doesn't seem to think that is much of a big deal.
no doubt our government is running guns in libya, and most of our media isn't too interested in that either. (with a few exceptions)
i guess some voters are either clueless or masochists, but i don't know which.
i voted, and our republican county had a LONG LINE to vote-for the first time ever that i have gone to vote.
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How do you think they will pay for the $750B in cuts?
do you even think that the people who are voting for obama care at all about the actual state of the economy, the debt, the interest payments, or where the money comes from or how it is spent?
Already voted for Obama and I actually know what is in the ACA so, forgive me if I don't heed one who demonstrates they do not.
PCIP is my only hope for health insurance, although it's not easy to get and it's not cheap at my age. That's section 1101 of the ACA. I wish they'd lower the Medicare age to 60 or 62 and charge people a "penalty" the same way you get less Soc Sec if you collect early. Fat chance of that ever happening!
I also voted early on Oct 9 (by absentee ballot) as stated in a previous post.
I know some people are going to think this is stupid, but 7-ELEVEN has been right every 4 years and so far Obama is winning. They offer red and blue cups for their coffee and Obama is outselling Romney in most of the 32 states in which they have stores. Unscientific? Sure, but who pays attention to polls anyway?
do you even think that the people who are voting for obama care at all about the actual state of the economy, the debt, the interest payments, or where the money comes from or how it is spent?
of course not.
So do tell, please! Why are we voting for him? Could it be that the United States is supposed to be a country that is not governed by religion? Could it be because we believe in what Thomas Jefferson wrote when he said
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Also, please tell me why some people are not voting for Obama? Seriously, I'm curious. Do you agree with John Sununu that Colin Powell doesn't really care about America and is only voting for the black guy? What about Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, a Republican, who said "My party is full of racists?"
In other words, although I certainly don't think everyone who votes for Mitt Romney is a racist, I could write exactly what you did in reverse. I could say that many people who are voting for Romney don't really care that he changes his mind and doesn't seem to have a solid position on any issue. I could say that even people who have benefited under Obama are so blind with hate that they are voting against their own interests. I could add that, when Romney served as Gov of MA, it ranked #47 in job creation. As you wrote..do they care? Of course not!
Not exactly true, but you're on the right track. I'd have to write a 200 page post to explain. But there are a variety of plans available in most states. One problem for me is that the benefits have gotten a lot better and the people who are receiving them are doing all the complaining!
Maybe Chica was talking about something else. Medicaid is entirely different from Medicare. Medicaid is income based and Medicare is not. If a person is on both Medicare and Medicare, the term is "dual eligible." When a person is eligible for Medicare, Medicare is the primary insurer. If the beneficiary is indigent, the individual state's Medicaid often covers the co-pays and deductibles.
However, Long term Care is not covered by Medicare at all. So a very large percentage of elderly and disabled persons living in nursing homes depend on their state's Medicaid program. When a state cuts Medicaid spending, it has a devastating effect on that population.
For example, in Florida the cuts have resulted in a reduction of nursing home employees and an increase in abuse and neglect. In many counties, complaints about nursing home abuse are on the rise because of cuts to Medicaid. Therefore, it is critical that the Federal Government has some control over how Medicaid funds are spent. Recently a judge in New York put a temporary injunction on cuts that would reduce the number of home visits to people who require in-home care. Medicaid eligibility, Food Stamps and other forms of state assistance, are determined by each state. However, the Federal Government has guidelines they're supposed to follow. I realize everyone keeps yelling "give the states more rights" but when you're sick and disabled, you can't just pack up and move to the state that offers the best care.
One of the most disheartening things that I see is conservative medicare-medicaid recipients wanting to vote for romney-ryan; talk about voting against your self interests! Ryan proposals want to immediately hand over block grants to the states and waiving Federal requirements. When the fiscally/socially conservative states are allowed to set their own standards of how much they'll cover, poorer people are usually not the winners. This was never even mentioned in the debates. I guess that poor, elderly people don't really matter that much.
chica_bella813 is this week's MVP... Most Valuable Poster.
She speaks her mind freely as the few remaining Republicans on this site make personal attacks against her.
There are few remaining Republicans on this site because there are few remaining Republicans anywhere.
Thank you, chica_bella813 for you contributions to this forum. Whatever you see from these GOPers who know they are going to lose this election, please understand that there are many more people who are on your side.
Umm, this is 2012 not 1976. The democrats haven't held a true majority since then except for 2006-2010. So, if you have been following recent politics you will see that the GOP won big-time in the 2010 mid-terms. Maybe they aren't on this site because libs don't talk politics, they argue. I can only stay on here for a short while myself.
One of the most disheartening things that I see is conservative medicare-medicaid recipients wanting to vote for romney-ryan; talk about voting against your self interests! Ryan proposals want to immediately hand over block grants to the states and waiving Federal requirements. When the fiscally/socially conservative states are allowed to set their own standards of how much they'll cover, poorer people are usually not the winners. This was never even mentioned in the debates. I guess that poor, elderly people don't really matter that much.
I'm not sure where you get your facts, but it doesn't matter. The good news is that there will be fewer poor people in 2016 if Romney is the pres. I'm sure those few will still play the victim, but there really are a few people that you just can't help.
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What a great country. God Bless you, God bless President Obama and the First Family and God Bless the United States of America!!!
, other than the iran boycott that is), fact- Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.
