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Old 02-16-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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no hte problem with the GOP is that we nominate candidates that are democrat light rather than real conservatives. romney, mccain both bushs. none of these people were real conservatives, romney was the closest, but missed the mark by a fair margin.
I'd disagree completely. The real issue is that the GOP, the party of "the constitution" no longer understand the constitution.

Republicans call Obama a socialist, and their fringe members call him a Marxist.

How in the hell can you expect anything from a group that couldn't even pass Polisci 101 at a community college?
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Socialist media will further brainwash the American people to vote for a communist big government administration.

The moral fiber of this country is no longer strong. We will all lose more rights and the give aways will continue and the financial system will go bankrupt and we will all be poor. The road of the democrats is easily seen.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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The problem with the GOP is that it is run by the far right. You have the Tea Party involved. It is full of extremes. The attitude is "if you're not with us you're against us". The moderates are being pushed out. And at this moment, what this last election has proved is this. Alot of minorities aren't voting for Republicans. One might want to look at why that is the case.
And I hope the tea party nut jobs continue their craziness through 2016 and beyond

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Old 02-16-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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And I hope the tea party nut jobs continue their craziness through 2016 and beyond
The tea party is for responsible spending and lower taxes. The Boston Tea party was about higher taxes of which we will all have to pay till we can't buy food or drive a car.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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And I hope the tea party nut jobs continue their craziness through 2016 and beyond
And these pictures are quite mild. Lately the racists within the Tea Party have been getting more vocal.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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The tea party is for responsible spending and lower taxes. The Boston Tea party was about higher taxes of which we will all have to pay till we can't buy food or drive a car.
I thought the tea party was for eliminating more moderate Republican candidates in favor of those who are so far right, it ensures that the Democrat who was supposed to lose by 10 winds up winning by 10.

At least, that's what they seem to have accomplished thus far.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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Default The GOP has already lost the 2016 election

Hardly.

Three years from today, the primary campaigns of both parties will be in full swing. That's an eternity in politics. None of us knows who will even be in the running for either party. By then, the Dems will have had ample opportunity to make a huge foul-up, which they are totally capable of doing. And the Pubs might have regained some use of their brains.

I'm not saying that's what is going to happen. But to call it for the Dems 3-1/2 years out is more than permature.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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To get a clearer idea of things, what do YOU want? I'm hearing you describe some of these politicians as "democratic light". I don't see them that way.
personally i want someone who is fiscally conservative, and while socially conservative doesnt push a social agenda as that will only lose elections for republicans. romney was the most fiscally conservative of the candidates and presidents from the republican party that i mentioned, but even he is too fiscally liberal. we need someone that understands that the government has a spending problem, and that the way to prosperity is not through government. someone like warren g harding and calvin coolidge.

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I'd disagree completely. The real issue is that the GOP, the party of "the constitution" no longer understand the constitution.

Republicans call Obama a socialist, and their fringe members call him a Marxist.

How in the hell can you expect anything from a group that couldn't even pass Polisci 101 at a community college?
obama is a big government type who thinks that government should own or control everything, sounds like karl marx to me. obama also wants a centrally planned economy, again run by the government, and again sounds like marx to me. it didnt work for the old soviet union, it isnt working in cuba, it didnt work in china, and it wont work here either. obama IS a marxist, and when he was in college those were the very kinds of people he sought out. remember his mentor frank marshal davis? he was a communist, and he taught obama well.

as for the constitution, it limits what the federal government can do. unfortunately we have had too many politicians and activist judges that let the federal government get away with a bunch of things that should never have been.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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personally i want someone who is fiscally conservative, and while socially conservative doesnt push a social agenda as that will only lose elections for republicans. romney was the most fiscally conservative of the candidates and presidents from the republican party that i mentioned, but even he is too fiscally liberal. we need someone that understands that the government has a spending problem, and that the way to prosperity is not through government. someone like warren g harding and calvin coolidge.
Well, what I want is someone who is both socially and fiscally moderate. I want a moderate. Not someone to the far right, or to the far left, but a moderate.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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As even Biden knows the politcal pendulum is always swinging.
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