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Every time I mention Scott Walker's failure in creating private sector jobs, all you keep talking about is the unemployment rate.
The point of creating jobs is to reduce the unemployment rate.
Hence, it is much better to get 50K jobs a year in a state with no population growth. Than to get 100K jobs in a state where the population grows by 200K.
And I did talk about job growth too. Under Walker the job growth has been higher than during the previous governors. So at least he is doing better than the Democrat alternative.
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I have given several personal AND statewide examples as to why Scott Walker is a failure, but you seem to be fixated on my individual distaste for him.
I am fixated on it, because it makes you extremly biased.
Think about it, if Scott Walker was that horrible, he wouldn't have been relected.
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It's also rather convenient that you refuse to discuss the $220 million in taxpayer money going towards the private ownership of an arena.
Arenas are useful too, and they bring in revenue. Those things are local issues, where some people prefer to invest in one project, and others want to invest in other projects.
Scott Walker is certainly not the only governor who has invested in stadiums. But my guess is that you only care about this issue, because of what Scott Walker did to public unions.
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Also, Scott Walker is NOWHERE CLOSE in job creation compared to Jim Doyle... Seriously not even in the same ballpark. It's embarrassing that you blab that repeatedly.
You need to start looking at the facts, because here you are dead wrong.
Frankly, I'm not worried about Walker. I don't think he's bright enough to make it through the primaries. Heck, even Rick Perry thinks the man isn't all that smart. And even if he did, his record in Wisconsin is just shameful. He and the Legislator might govern in a way that you ideologically agree with, but the empirical evidence is that it's a big pile of fail.
Fine work
Hard to believe some posters are actually trying to defend Dumb Scott and his brutal economic record...
the point of creating jobs is to reduce the unemployment rate.
Hence, it is much better to get 50k jobs a year in a state with no population growth. Than to get 100k jobs in a state where the population grows by 200k.
And i did talk about job growth too. Under walker the job growth has been higher than during the previous governors. So at least he is doing better than the democrat alternative.
if that's the case, then why on earth would he publicly set out to create 250,000 jobs over and over again? Only to fail miserably... In four years, he created about 120,000 jobs, which equates to 30,000 a year... So you can forget about 100k as well as 50k.
i dont understand why you insist on trying to desperately spin things in walker's favor. listen, if you are going to compare current and previous governors in job creation, you have to be fair about it... Not biased like you yourself are guilty of. i want you to compare them in their respective time periods. You can't compare one governor's productivity against the other when they sit at opposite ends of the economic recession. That is simply idiotic. Compare them to their peers during their respective time periods and you'll see that not once did wisconsin finish last in job creation in the midwest during jim doyle's eight year term. However, walker has had wisconsin dead last three out of his four years.
i am fixated on it, because it makes you extremly biased.
Think about it, if scott walker was that horrible, he wouldn't have been relected.
what has walker done for wisconsin that makes the state a winner? You keep talking about him winning elections.. That's cute and all but when your state's economy is garbage, how do you think that will translate to the national level?
arenas are useful too, and they bring in revenue. Those things are local issues, where some people prefer to invest in one project, and others want to invest in other projects.
Scott walker is certainly not the only governor who has invested in stadiums. But my guess is that you only care about this issue, because of what scott walker did to public unions.
actually, there are plenty of places that know how to privately-fund arenas. Right now, las vegas is putting up a $375 million arena with zero taxpayer funds. Kinda nice to have amenities without bending over and raping citizens in the process. things like this are possible when you create attractions near the border of your state line which generates revenue from out-of-state visitors... Just like what walker could have done by approving the kenosha casino and hotel (and in turn creating over 6,000 jobs as well) just miles from the wi/il border. Maybe walker is right... One of the largest and richest metro areas in the united states probably isn't worth milking for the benefit of wisconsin.
dont know how much you follow sports development, but i assume it isn't much. The shelf life of a premier indoor arena is about 25 years. The bradley center opened in late 1988 for a total construction cost of $91 million. Yet here we are 27 years later and the arena is outdated and has to go. You would think after 27 years the arena would be long paid off and pumping money into the city judging by your comments..... Not so much. The bradley center is in a $20 million hole. The combination of operating costs, maintenance, and upgrades throughout the years has buried the building financially. It bleeds money. The $220 million that walker has proposed as a jock tax (tax money coming out of the general pool that he put a special label on to confused his idiot followers) consists of two segments... The first is $200 million towards the new arena and the remaining $20 million covers the cost of cleaning the slate with the bradley center. So the citizens of wisconsin get to fund not one but two arenas in the state in a 27-year span. to further debunk your theory on stadiums providing economic prosperity, the construction costs of miller park raised taxes in the five counties surrounding the stadium. This was only supposed to be for i believe ten years. They have now extended it through 2018 or 2020. so let me ask you... If the bradley center was losing considerable amounts of money, how do you think the new arena is going to ever make up the $200 million burden on taxpayers? Just like the bradley center and arenas everywhere... It will need maintenance, it will need upgrades. Keep telling yourself they turn a profit if it makes you snuggle up to scooter a bit more at night...
Don't fool yourself, you liberals hate Scott Walker so much that you are posting things about him, even if no Republican is here. Most of the things you mention are either political spin or things only liberal care about.
Hardly anyone is reading this thread, and your hatred towards Walker goes beyond any limits and reason. So whats the point of debating against you?
This kind of hatred comes from past losses, not from Walker beeing a bad candidate.
Walker is an idiot. His idiotic statements and answers his MO. Wait until he hits the big league. He will make Palin look intelligent.
No, actually it comes from seeing my wife's salary dip from 45k to 42k to 39k over a three-year span while seeing her benefit fees increase in Wisconsin.
It comes from him cutting education spending once to balance the budget... Then doing it a second time in less than four years.
It comes from the jobs creation failures he preached before setting foot in Madison and couldn't come close to fulfilling once there.
It comes from his remark "I took on 100,000 protestors so I can handle terrorists, too"
It comes from the fact that he passed up an $800 million federally-funded high speed rail that would have linked Milwaukee and Madison to Chicago and Minneapolis while providing thousands of jobs to the state of Wisconsin... In favor of a light rail in Milwaukee that is only two miles long and already runs on current bus routes... And... It will cost Milwaukee taxpayers $125 million - to start.
Does that reach what YOU would consider appropriate reasoning?
You see... If you want to embarrass yourself on here with your assumption as to why an individual has a distaste for someone, go right ahead. I've never met a mind reader before and it could be exciting. Also thrilling to know you've been in my family's shoes and understand what we went through in Wisconsin. Such talent!
Finally... I'm not going to assume which party you favor, but education is pretty important to me. Judging by your ignorant and oblivious comments, I could understand why it holds no value for you.
Lets not leave out that Walker campaigned on 250K jobs and never fulfilled that promise.
Walker wants to borrow 2 billion to balance the budget.
Walker has neglected infrastructure in WI.
Walker never mentioned in any campaign that he was going to hobble public, and later, private unions.
Walker's "big, bold ideas" that he said he enact, were never told to the voters. The only "big, bold idea" that was told to the voters was the jobs promise which he totally failed on. Now, instead of working on this promise, Walker is pimping himself out on the right-wing campaign trail.
Lets not leave out that Walker campaigned on 250K jobs and never fulfilled that promise.
Walker wants to borrow 2 billion to balance the budget.
Walker has neglected infrastructure in WI.
Walker never mentioned in any campaign that he was going to hobble public, and later, private unions.
Walker's "big, bold ideas" that he said he enact, were never told to the voters. The only "big, bold idea" that was told to the voters was the jobs promise which he totally failed on. Now, instead of working on this promise, Walker is pimping himself out on the right-wing campaign trail.
And he wants to gut the University of Wisconsin, one of the state's crown jewels of education, to boot.
And he wants to gut the University of Wisconsin, one of the state's crown jewels of education, to boot.
Conservatives don't value education. In fact, all that fancy-schmancy liberal book learnin' is a turnoff to the voters who put Walker in office, so he risks nothing by decimating the university. His constituents are probably cheering at the very thought.
Better to take the money from the university and use it instead to build a sports stadium that will lose taxpayer's money but nicely line the pockets of the billionaire team owners. The one percent is Walker's true constituency.
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Did Walker, at any point, campaign on Right to Work or abolishing public unions? If so find it, I couldn't.
Did Walker campaign on borrowing 2 billion to balance his budget deficit?
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) will skip making $108 million in debt payments in the face of a budget shortfall due to a slew of tax cuts he enacted.
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Although the state had a surplus of $759 million last year, it now faces a projected shortfall that could wind up being more than $2 billion for the next two budget years.
It’s Not Just Hillary: Scott Walker’s Email Controversy
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The Wisconsin governor kept a secret email system too, and some of his aides were found guilty of other crimes too. And it’s not over yet.
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Walker’s staff kept a secret email system and set up a secret wireless router in Walker’s government office that commingled government and campaign business on private Gmail and Yahoo email accounts.
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