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Old 03-07-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Do you effete, elites really believe these lies? Just keep repeating them, maybe someone, somewhere will not bother to check them out. Pffft!

Just a wall of words. What a terrible waste of an education alleged to be top tier.
This is a waste of words!

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When White House hopeful Scott Walker talks to potential voters, he hawks himself as a leader who tells people what he will do and then does it.

But the line has a snag. As a candidate for governor, Walker didn't spell out or even mention some of the measures that would become key achievements in office.
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During his 2014 race to secure a second term, Walker didn't campaign on some of the most sweeping changes in his current budget proposal: freezing a stewardship program for state lands; borrowing $1.3 billion for transportation; and cutting state universities by $300 million in exchange for unhooking them from many state laws.
Behind Scott Walker's claim of doing what he says, a record of dropping bombshells
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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if that's the case, then why on earth would he publicly set out to create 250,000 jobs over and over again? Only to fail miserably... In four years, he created about 120,000 jobs, which equates to 30,000 a year... So you can forget about 100k as well as 50k.
Polticans make up numbers. No politican could ever get 250K jobs in Wisconsin, just like no President could ever get an unemployment rate to platau at 7%, even though a certain President projected that he could.

Don't even get me started on all the lies Obama has served us, about health care, jobs, and executive action. But for some reason, you don't care when your own politicans lie.


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i dont understand why you insist on trying to desperately spin things in walker's favor.
Because the bias in this thread is extreme. If he was this terrible, he would not been relected.

I am an independent, and not really a Scott Walker supporter. But that doesn't mean I buy the union bias.

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listen, if you are going to compare current and previous governors in job creation, you have to be fair about it... Not biased like you yourself are guilty of.
i want you to compare them in their respective time periods. You can't compare one governor's productivity against the other when they sit at opposite ends of the economic recession. That is simply idiotic.
Even if I don't include the recession, Scott Walker has still done a better job than the previous governor. From 2003 to 2008 Jim Doyle produced 18K jobs per year. In Scott Walker period he was able to produce 33K jobs per year. In the last year, Scott walker produced 75K jobs.

I will say 2003-2008 was a lot better period for the US, than 2011 to 2015. Thats why you lose against Scott Walker, framing him as the devil will not win any supporters if it is based on lies or half truths.

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what has walker done for wisconsin that makes the state a winner? You keep talking about him winning elections.. That's cute and all but when your state's economy is garbage, how do you think that will translate to the national level?
How would he win the election if the state economy is garbage?

He won. because a lot of people thought he did a decent job, and don't buy the union version of Wisconsin economic performance.

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actually, there are plenty of places that know how to privately-fund arenas. Right now, las vegas is putting up a $375 million arena with zero taxpayer funds.
There are huge investors and big money in Las Vegas, so not exactly the best comparison.

As I said before, Wisconsin is not the only place they have invested in stadiums. I really don't think you would have considered this a huge issue, if it wasn't for Walkers union busting.

Most importantly, this is a local issue. We don't care about Wisconsin local issues, and since it didn't hurt him in the local elections, people in Wisconsin didn't even care. Focusing on local issues in a presidental debate, is going to fail.

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Old 03-07-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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Be careful, there might be conservative dust bunnies under your bed.
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This is a waste of words!



The art of political power. Clearly, it has driven you nuts, Walkerphobe. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Behind Scott Walker's claim of doing what he says, a record of dropping bombshells
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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Let's see; grading contractors could be called called earthyfathers, horitculturalist, farmers, a defrocked priest, the father of a Christian pasture, a garden shop small business owner, heck even and avid gardener could be called earthlyfather, if the gardener were a man.

Try your childish insult somewhere else. Like it, your lack of sophistication and understanding is clear in the vomiting of the same, multiple times disproven lies. Yet the Walkerphobes persist in recycling. Pretty funny, really.

Been doing it since 2002, when Walker won in a special election to fill the vacated seat, winning the first of three terms serving as County Executive in Milwaukee County from 2002 to 2010.

How's that trashing working for you? LOL.
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Earthlyfather

Did Walker create 250,000 jobs in WI?
Promise of 250,000 jobs hasn't changed, Scott Walker says Now, Walker's priority is to campaign for president instead of following through on what he promised his voters.

Did Walker, at any point, campaign on Right to Work or abolishing public unions? If so find it, I couldn't.

Did Walker campaign on borrowing 2 billion to balance his budget deficit?Crunched By His Big Tax Cuts, Scott Walker Will Skip $108 Million In Debt Payments | ThinkProgress
Local op-ed: Walker balances the budget by borrowing $4 billion : Vernonbroadcaster

No, Walker campaigned about a budget surplus just months ago! Scott Walker says next state budget will begin with $535 million surplus | PolitiFact Wisconsin

Did Walker campaign on extensively cutting funding to universities? Is so, find it. I sure couldn't.

No! Walker talks a big, bold line all of which is total BS!
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Your Walkerphobia is so blinding; that you are apparently unaware the U.S. DOT has bee 'pushing' these projects with co-funding. Cities like Atlanta, Los Angeles, Sacramento, District of Columbia, Cincinnati all have embarked and completed, have underway, or in one case may, actually (DC), be abandoning the idea after sinking millions into their project. All of the aforementioned cities are Democratically controlled. So, forget Antonio Villaraigosa's political future. The same with Atlanta's Mayor, Kasim Reed. Right?

The Walkerphobes are desperate for new cannon fodder as their old stuffer is getting kind of stinky. Guess that explains this latest, "Oh, the horrors."

This Bucks arena thing was disproven as not costing the taxpayers anything. Like three weeks ago. It's a bond issue to be repaid via the 'jock' tax. Again, the provincialism of the Walkerphobes is astounding. This sort of business/public funding is far from not standard across all professional sports franchises, across the country. Atlanta is doing something similar for their pro franchises. Seahawks did something similar. OKC lured the Supersonics in a similar way. Don't be naive.
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Yet it's okay for taxpayers to fund the $125 million streetcar when there is already public transit on it's route.
The high speed rail could have operated for literally decades before reaching the amount it will cost just to BUILD the streetcar system.


Are you okay with $220 million coming out of the tax base for a new Bucks arena?
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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Vegas Crabbie: Are you aware that a WI based tribal gaming entity has offered to pay the $220M in exchange for building a casino next to the Arena? It has been all over the news.
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Old 03-08-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Be careful, there might be conservative dust bunnies under your bed.
I bring only factual issues about Walker which are backed up with sources. Walker campaigned on lies (budget surplus)Scott Walker says next state budget will begin with $535 million surplus | PolitiFact Wisconsin and false promises (will create 250,000 jobshttp://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...0000-new-jobs/, will not pass Right to Work legislation) Scott Walker suddenly remembers he’s for right to work


Yes, conservative dust bunnies that are dirty and hide themselves, are deceiving people such as yourself.

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Old 03-08-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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Vegas Crabbie: Are you aware that a WI based tribal gaming entity has offered to pay the $220M in exchange for building a casino next to the Arena? It has been all over the news.
The casino would have brought tons of revenue into WI, not to mention the number of jobs it would create.

Presently, Walker is making decisions based on his desire to run for president and not based on what is best for WI.

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All of which raises anew the question: how could Walker possibly turn down this offer? “I think because 600 conservatives in Iowa told him he can’t win the Iowa caucuses (in the Republican presidential race) if he favors the casino,” Barca says.

Certainly Walker’s timing — he turned down the Kenosha Casino not long after he received the warning from Iowa conservatives — suggests this.
Murphy’s Law: How Could Walker Refuse Incredible Deal? - Urban Milwaukee
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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To quote Elizabeth Warren: "If Scott Walker sees 100,000 teachers & firefighters as his enemies, maybe it's time we take a closer look at his friends."
Sen. Elizabeth Warren Obliterates Scott Walker With Just One Sentence

Lets take a look at some of Walker's friends, shall we?
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In January 2012, two staffers who had been with Walker during his county executive days were charged with doing political work while being funded by that good old creature known as the taxpayer. But the decay in the workplace under Walker seemed extensive. One of the clandestine website webmasters, Brian Pierick, was convicted for enticing a minor while Timothy Russell received two years for pilfering from a veterans group and swanning about on funded trips to the Caribbean and Hawaii.
Scott Walker, the White House and ISIS » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
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Old 03-08-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Walker flip-flops again for votes.

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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker defended his front-runner status in Iowa by pledging to support a federal ethanol mandate, shifting his position on renewable fuels at a Republican roundup on farm issues.
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Walker dropped his previous flat opposition to ethanol mandates, offering a new stance that's well-suited to a state covered in cornfields.
At Iowa summit, Scott Walker shifts gears on ethanol mandate
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