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Old 04-29-2015, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Im so scared the dems will nominate Bernie....lol hope they do
Is that not because you realize that no Republican yet mentioned can beat Hillary? Rubio? Cruz(LOL)? Bush III? You feel you need a weak candidate to run against to even entertain a silly notion of taking back the WH.
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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I think what every independent voter wants. To keep the Democrats from moving further and further to the right. At least with Bernie in now, Hillary can't get a free pass for being a neocon.
Only the left wing batcrazy segment of the Democratic Party wants them to keep moving to the left. I'm watching my facebook postings go crazy, most of them Democrats over the stupid crap Obama has been doing. I hope he keeps bashing the police for example.
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Obama was/is a wingnut too. Wingnut status doesn't preclude the Democrat Party base from voting for someone. Bernie's problem is that he's white and not a novelty.
Perhaps. He's not exactly Democrat though. He ran as an independent and caucused Dem but he isn't a traditional Democrat. He is much more progressive and separate from business which perhaps the Democrats need to make it look different than Republicans. Even the TEA Party is in ties with business.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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I hope this will result in the voters actually getting to see how close in ideology Hillary is with Bernie Sanders - a self proclaimed socialist!
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Johnson Creek,WI
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Do the Dems have any contenders under the age of 65?
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Bernie Sanders will announce for the Democratic presidential nomination on Thursday, sources say. Hilarious.

Bernie Sanders to run for president | OnPolitics

What will he accomplish with this hopeless stunt?
I dunno. What will Ted Cruz accomplish with his hopeless stunt?
Hilarious.
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Old 04-29-2015, 11:31 PM
 
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The Dem finally has a wingnut running for president. While the GOP has at least four.

Wingnut count:

GOP: 4
Dem: 1

GOP wins!!! The conservatives must be so proud.
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Old 04-30-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Are you serious? You really think all independents are liberal? You do realize the majority consider themselves conservative or somewhat conservative don't You?
Independent voters have been growing in numbers, Republican identification is falling. Since the GOP has been moving harder right ever since 2008, perhaps the electorate are fed up and want something more moderate.

"Forty-two percent of Americans, on average, identified as political independents in 2013, the highest Gallup has measured since it began conducting interviews by telephone 25 years ago. Meanwhile, Republican identification fell to 25%, the lowest over that time span. At 31%, Democratic identification is unchanged from the last four years but down from 36% in 2008.
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Read more at Democrats Gain Nothing and Republicans Lose Members

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Old 04-30-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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The Vermont socialist is not a wingnut because of who owns him; rather, it is the blatant anti-prosperity platform of further eviscerating the financial system, rendering millions of people unemployable by pricing their labor above market value via huge minimum wage increases and state-sponsored labor monopolies, and the protectionist poverty initiatives.

He is a wingnut because his policies are even more counterproductive than Barack Obama's.
OMG!! Obama's policies are counterproductive? That must be why the economy has been in the tank for the last six years! I sure hope we get back to one of those healthy Republican economies real soon now!
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Old 04-30-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I like Bernie Sanders and I say that as a libertarian learning kinda guy. He's against corporatism, the military industrial complex, senseless wars, and the death penalty. He's an honest man who loves his country more than himself, and for that I respect him. Imagine a country with Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinichs and Ron Pauls leading the way. No wars, no bailouts, no military industrial complex, no beltway contractors, a balanced budget, lower tax rates and simpler taxes (i.e. the progressives will allow lower tax rates in exchange for elimination of deductions).
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