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He not only wants to drill, he wants to drill in ANWR and as close as 3 miles off our shores. The fossil fuel industry has had a poor environmental record wherever they drill.
Over a quarter of a million gallons were spilled at Prudhoe Bay in 2006. Why open ANWR to more of the same?
You might also remember the Exxon Valdez, thousands of animals died, including up to a half a million seabirds, along with seals, bald eagles, otters, and the destruction of an estimated billions of salmon eggs. The oil can still be found on Alaska's beaches almost 20 years later. To put it simply it was an environmental disaster.
And you and Ron Paul want to trust these irresponsible fools to drill only 3 miles from our shores?
So what's the option? Let Canada sell us all their oil first? Be reasonable. We either get off oil completely or we drill it on our land. Would you also be against windmills 1 mile off our shores with retractable blades and collapsible bases that would protect them during hurricanes?
So what's the option? Let Canada sell us all their oil first? Be reasonable. We either get off oil completely or we drill it on our land. Would you also be against windmills 1 mile off our shores with retractable blades and collapsible bases that would protect them during hurricanes?
It's called alternatives, something the fossil fuel industry and the Bush administration have done their best to suppress. The answer is not opening up wilderness areas or exposing our shoreline to a potential environmental disaster.
I'm for windmills as long as they have screens to protect birds.
He not only wants to drill, he wants to drill in ANWR and as close as 3 miles off our shores. The fossil fuel industry has had a poor environmental record wherever they drill.
Over a quarter of a million gallons were spilled at Prudhoe Bay in 2006. Why open ANWR to more of the same?
You might also remember the Exxon Valdez, thousands of animals died, including up to a half a million seabirds, along with seals, bald eagles, otters, and the destruction of an estimated billions of salmon eggs. The oil can still be found on Alaska's beaches almost 20 years later. To put it simply it was an environmental disaster.
And you and Ron Paul want to trust these irresponsible fools to drill only 3 miles from our shores?
well in regards to anwr the oil isnt leaving there by tanker,its going to take the same pipeline the rest of the north slope takes now.if there were another tanker disaster the birds arent going to care which field it came out of originally.considering the huge number of tankers that have picked up oil there before and since without a problem i am not concerned,sorry.the only way the carter administration was able to get anwr approved in the first place was to allow for the possibility of oil drilling there,and i support oil drilling there,and offshore,because thats where the oil is.there is a lot more govt oversight and regulation of oil drilling then there used to be,and i feel the steps are adequete.you can feel free to disagree and i'm sure you will but as i noted earlier,ron paul isnt running for the 'green party'nomination
I read it the first time. Until private industry can be trusted, sometimes we need the government. Heck, a Republican Nixon established the EPA.
Which is currently forcing California to adopt new measures that are less strict than what they wanted for emission standards. Yeah, good program there. Smaller government means more freedom and accountability for those that do wrong. Big government just creates more big government.
States rights, I see. That must be why RP proposed H.J.RES.80: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States.
Maybe you can explain what does states rights have to do with the Federal government telling me whether I can burn a flag in protest?
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This is on Constitutional grounds? Just like with his vote on Gay adoptions and his support of a prayer amendment he sounds awfully selective when it comes to his supposed Libertarianism.
Why did he vote no on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies in Jan 2007? Heck, this, along with drilling offshore and in ANWR he's not exactly the environment's best friend.
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We incentivize the private sector? In other words, subsidies. Exxon's revenue is approximately 1 billion a day. They are the largest company by revenue in the world. Exxon's earnings for 2007 are expected to be just short of 40 billion.
The only retards are the ones who swallow the BS the fossil fuel industry puts out about needing subsidies.
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That's nice, you finally got down to admitting he's nothing but a Republican. The same party as Bush and Cheney. Congratulations on supporting the party of the incumbent, arguably the worst president in modern history.
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I realize the difference between him and his comrades in the Republican party, but the fact remains, he is a Republican. That's all I need to know.
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Yes, when he ran as a Libertarian he received less than 1/2 of 1%. So, I guess he decided to trade in his ideals for political expediency.
Since he obviously won't be the Republican nominee. The only question that remains is will he run as a third party?
Btw, Noahma if you care about a women's right to chose, Ron Paul's position of overturning Roe v Wade would, in sending it back to the states, make abortion illegal in about half the states. Perhaps that's what you want, if that's the case support RP.
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Strom Thurmond switched to the Republicans in 1964. Apparently they were much more in keeping with his segregationist ideals. Remember LBJ was pushing through the Civil Rights Act at the time.
I'm a Democrat because I care about such things as the environment. Private industry has a horrendous track record, when left to their own devices. They need to be regulated.
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You have a choice, private industry or the government. When it comes to the environment the choice is clear, private industry needs to be regulated.
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I read it the first time. Until private industry can be trusted, sometimes we need the government. Heck, a Republican Nixon established the EPA.
Upton,,,,, thanks for the information I understand much better why I seemed to always have reservations with the idea of voting for RP. The republicans got this nation into a large mess that will take another decade or more to clean up, and having another administration like the last one just isn’t a good idea. We need “change”!And Ron Paul changing from a Republican to a Libertarian seems like a Leopard trying to change his spots.
Upton,,,,, thanks for the information I understand much better why I seemed to always have reservations with the idea of voting for RP. The republicans got this nation into a large mess that will take another decade or more to clean up, and having another administration like the last one just isn’t a good idea. We need “change”!And Ron Paul changing from a Republican to a Libertarian seems like a Leopard trying to change his spots.
Changing? He's always had libertarian-leaning views. Yes, I said libertarian-leaning. He doesn't subscribe completely to the libertarian worldview, but close enough for me.
If you think Paul's administration would be anything like Bush's, you might want to take a closer look at what Paul believes. He's a Goldwater-type small-government conservative, not one of these imperialist, big-government neocons who hijacked the party after 9/11.
I've never understood why you'd rule someone out just because of the party they belong to. There are good and bad Republicans, and good and bad Democrats. More power to the knee-jerk straight-ticket voters, but I prefer to vote for people and ideas, not for parties ...
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