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Old 01-28-2008, 11:28 AM
 
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This is from 2004, but it estimates 30 states would ban abortion if Roe V Wade were overturned. Again, if you support a woman's right to choose, RP is not your man.
Report: Most states would ban abortion - U.S. news - MSNBC.com
This is a very biased article considering their headlines "Most" but when you read the article it says:

"The center found that 18 states had pre-Roe laws totally or partially banning abortion...It concluded that 21 states are at high risk..."

I am not sure why "most" is the about the same number as the 20 low risk states. I also bolded the important part because as it is now, Federal law does partially ban abortion (some abortion methods are allowed and some are not) so to say that 18 states would "totally" ban abortion is incredibly misleading. I would like to know which states would "totally" ban abortion which the article doesn't even answer. I believe they are trying to mislead the reader. One state? Two?
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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RP voted no on prohibiting drilling in ANWR
RP voted no on keeping the moratorium on off shore oil drill.

Ron Paul on Energy & Oil
How will that "enable known polluters, like Exxon, to pollute wherever, and at whatever levels, they see fit"???
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:32 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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RP supports the overturning of Roe v Wade, sending it back to the states. If that were to happen, most of the southern states would enact abortion bans, leaving lower income women, in those states, without an option. If you support a woman's right to choose, RP is not your man.
Don't you mean people would have the right to decide the issue?

I thought you believed in choice?
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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evilnewbie - yes, Southern states (and many others) would restrict abortion if Roe v Wade were overturned. Even the Democratic Party in these states supports abortion restrictions (meaning banning abortion).
Again if the PEOPLE wanted abortion to remain legal,wouldn't they vote in politicians who believe as they do?

Again it appears what some favor is for the PEOPLE to not have the right to choose...

Odd.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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This is a very biased article considering their headlines "Most" but when you read the article it says:

"The center found that 18 states had pre-Roe laws totally or partially banning abortion...It concluded that 21 states are at high risk..."

I am not sure why "most" is the about the same number as the 20 low risk states. I also bolded the important part because as it is now, Federal law does partially ban abortion (some abortion methods are allowed and some are not) so to say that 18 states would "totally" ban abortion is incredibly misleading. I would like to know which states would "totally" ban abortion which the article doesn't even answer. I believe they are trying to mislead the reader. One state? Two?
As of this story's writing, four states had passed "trigger" bans on abortion that would go into effect immediately if Roe were reversed. 22 other states are considered at "high risk."
USATODAY.com - 'Roe v. Wade': The divided states of America
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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As of this story's writing, four states had passed "trigger" bans on abortion that would go into effect immediately if Roe were reversed. 22 other states are considered at "high risk."
USATODAY.com - 'Roe v. Wade': The divided states of America
Do the PEOPLE of those states want this?

I would imagine that around half of the population of any given area are women, for abortion to be banned would require women to support it's banning.

Again are you afraid of letting the PEOPLE decide?

I thought you supported the right to choose?
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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How will that "enable known polluters, like Exxon, to pollute wherever, and at whatever levels, they see fit"???
Under RP, with no moratorium on off shore drilling, on any coast in America. I think that qualifies as enabling a known polluter, like Exxon to do pretty much what they want. That is sensitive marine habitat we're talking about, and sorry, but I don't trust the fossil fuel industry.

If you trust Exxon, vote for RP.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:45 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Under RP, with no moratorium on off shore drilling, on any coast in America. I think that qualifies as enabling a known polluter, like Exxon to do pretty much what they want. That is sensitive marine habitat we're talking about, and sorry, but I don't trust the fossil fuel industry.

If you trust Exxon, vote for RP.
Why would the oil companies want to spill oil?

I would think they would rather sell it.

Also would it be legal to spill oil all over these areas?
I would think that would not be allowed.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Again if the PEOPLE wanted abortion to remain legal,wouldn't they vote in politicians who believe as they do?

Again it appears what some favor is for the PEOPLE to not have the right to choose...

Odd.
So, if the majority want to ban abortion in SC, it's just fine with you. What about the women, who live in your state, but find themselves in the minority?

You want to limit a woman's right to choose, RP is indeed your man. His views on abortion line up with such sterling characters as Pat Roberson or James Dobson.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:48 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So, if the majority want to ban abortion in SC, it's just fine with you. What about the women, who live in your state, but find themselves in the minority?

You want to limit a woman's right to choose, RP is indeed your man. His views on abortion line up with such sterling characters as Pat Roberson or James Dobson.
Why would women be in the minority,they make up around half the popluation.

Why don't you support the PEOPLE choosing,are you afraid they won't support your beliefs?
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