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Are there many Democrats in South Carolina? I understand it's a pretty solid Red State.
South Carolina does not have voter registration by party. But you are correct. The last time the state voted for a Democrat was in 1976 for Jimmy Carter.
On the other hand, the state is close to 30% African American, and they almost always vote for Democrats.
He's up sharply among minorities across the country, so I wouldnt be so cocky if I were you. Low income minorities tend to tune in later to the political process than people in highly educated states like New Hampshire, so we shouldnt be surprised that once people start to look at Bernie's integrity, message and track record as a candidate who has stood up for low income and working class people for 40 years, he gets more support. The guy even has a criminal record. For fighting against segregation in Chicago in the 60s.
Second, like I said, Hillary has YET to bring up his interesting past, be it the fact that his home state is number 2 for racial disparity in prison population or his "women liked to be raped" essay or his praising of the Sandinstas, Fidel Castro, or honeymooning in the USSR.
And yes, he was around during the Civil Rights movement...and so was Charlton Heston when he marched with MLK on the March on Washington. But one mutilated interview with him by Michael Moore made him hated by liberals who thought he was racist, when the opposite was true. Imagine what Hillary will do to Bernie with the help of the entire Democratic Party establishment?
Bernie's trouble with minorities is happening BEFORE Hillary has hit him on it. Imagine what happens to him when she does?
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But quite frankly, you've compared Sanders to Joseph Stalin and other mass murderers so you're clearly smoking some strong stuff.
Bernie praised the USSR, is endorsed by the Communist Party, and calls himself a socialist, as did Stalin...meanwhile, Trump has always been for gay rights (if not gay marriage) has never said anything overtly racist and rejects the racist title and is pretty anti-interventionist...and yet, it is perfectly okay to compare him to Hitler in the media.
If people can call Trump the next Hitler, it should be fine to call Bernie the next Stalin. What's good for the goose...
That was running against Obama, the first president of known African descent. Against a 70+ year old Jewish guy from Vermont on the other hand, Hillary is a different candidate all together.
Second, like I said, Hillary has YET to bring up his interesting past, be it the fact that his home state is number 2 for racial disparity in prison population or his "women liked to be raped" essay or his praising of the Sandinstas, Fidel Castro, or honeymooning in the USSR.
And yes, he was around during the Civil Rights movement...and so was Charlton Heston when he marched with MLK on the March on Washington. But one mutilated interview with him by Michael Moore made him hated by liberals who thought he was racist, when the opposite was true. Imagine what Hillary will do to Bernie with the help of the entire Democratic Party establishment?
Bernie's trouble with minorities is happening BEFORE Hillary has hit him on it. Imagine what happens to him when she does?
Bernie praised the USSR, is endorsed by the Communist Party, and calls himself a socialist, as did Stalin...meanwhile, Trump has always been for gay rights (if not gay marriage) has never said anything overtly racist and rejects the racist title and is pretty anti-interventionist...and yet, it is perfectly okay to compare him to Hitler in the media.
If people can call Trump the next Hitler, it should be fine to call Bernie the next Stalin. What's good for the goose...
And I am no fan of Trump myself. Just sayin'.
Yes, it sounds like Trump is waaay too moderate for you.
Exactly. Black Americans tend to have very fond feelings for Bill Clinton, and by extension Hillary. Bernie has no idea how to talk to most black voters, and coming from a state that is 90% white doesn't help. Not only that but Hillary could easily bring up the less than stellar history with African Americans in Vermont:
Hillary is not stupid, and she has learned from 2008. The only part of the "Obama coalition" that is on Bernie's side are the urban and urbane white liberals in the Prius's drinking $17 lattes and college students. Hillary has the minorities, older Democrats, South Democrats, rural Democrats and union households.
Trust me, once this gets passed Iowa and New Hampshire, it is over for Mr. B.S.
She doesn't have union households. Trust me. The union rank and file don't want Hillary. The only unions that have endorsed Hillary did not leave the decision up to it's members. All the unions that let their members decide who to endorse, endorsed Sanders. A member wanted our local to endorse Sanders as well.
By the way here is a graph from your link, which didn't really conclude anything.
Notice how the incarceration rate of asians (they don't define asians) is way up too.
Maybe, maybe not. As I demonstrated above, if he can raise his support among blacks by just 19 points he will win the SC primary.
Just 19 points, eh
Well good luck with that
Hilly is basically married to a black man...
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I think when "push comes to shove" Clinton will prevail. When Bernie steps down, he won't be running on an independent ticket.
It wouldn't surprise me if she ultimately prevails, but it would be a huge mistake on her part to assume Bernie isn't a threat. He has both the money and the ground support to mount a serious challenge.
No way he goes independent in the general election though. He's smart enough to know that's a surefire way to stick a right winger in office.
That was running against Obama, the first president of known African descent. Against a 70+ year old Jewish guy from Vermont on the other hand, Hillary is a different candidate all together.
So in other words, the 69 year old Hillary is racist when she runs against a Black candidate, but she isn't racist when the candidate is a 70 year old Jew.
Actually his current support is up 10 pts in the last month. Apparently a lot of African Americans are also seeing the Clintons for what they really are.
Of course if more Whites shift their vote to Bernie, then this may not be needed at all.
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Yes, it sounds like Trump is waaay too moderate for you.
