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Old 02-12-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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How anyone can support a television reality star is beyond me ~ yet they do .
But you say you support Hillary even though she is bought and paid for by Wall Street. So I suppose this is the only kind of response that you can give in attempt to justify the unjustifiable.
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Old 02-12-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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But you say you support Hillary even though she is bought and paid for by Wall Street. So I suppose this is the only kind of response that you can give in attempt to justify the unjustifiable.
I'm an investor. Should I desperately hate Wall Street?
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Old 02-12-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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She'd help herself. Have you seen her net worth lately?
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:29 PM
 
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I also wonder what is it that African Americans expect from a president. Sanders' lifelong genuine concern and fights for the working class (as evident in many of his speeches) could only continue when he becomes president, and that could without doubt benefit black people--and other working class people. Unlike Clinton, Sanders does not make empty promise to everyone just to woo voters. So he tells us honestly: yes, we'll raise taxes (but...)--heck, that doesn't mean other candidates who didn't say so will not raise taxes. He also says bluntly that the corporate America will not like him. Clinton, on the other hand, said "everybody" will like her. Is that even possible--to please everybody? It is a promise that is impossible to fulfill. So such promises are worth nothing.
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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And you can easily click on those candidates and see exactly who gave the money. The amounts from Wall Street, especially the TBTF banks are staggaring for both JEB & Hillary.
Not really.


The bigger point you and others are trying to make is that she is supported by the CEO's and not the people, but If im a bank teller at Wells Fargo and I donate to Hillary Clinton, all your link is going to say is that "Wells Fargo" donated.


its a complete misconception and misinterpretation of how the system works.
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:25 AM
 
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The Wall Street billioinaire group and a large number of African Americans seem to make up a chunk of Clinton supporters (yes I know many Wall Streeters are for Republicans, but within the Dem voters), and are the ones she seems to be promising to benefit, either secretly (former) or publicly (latter).
Is the assumption that African Americans do not have interest in investing in stocks and bonds? That their retirement funds, foundations, and union pension funds do not benefit from success of Wall St investment firms? Do not African American businesses benefit from venture capital funds? Or do you only see African Americans through the lens of a welfare check?
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:22 AM
 
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I'm an investor. Should I desperately hate Wall Street?
Wall Street crashed the economy after spending billions of dollars lobbying in DC and causing a loss in economic output of trillions of dollars which the taxpayer paid for and must continue to pay for in the years to come.

But the question is whether we want to have a proper democracy or if we rather want to have a system of governance where the richest people set public policy through a corrupt system of campaign finance and ordinary people are shut out. A democracy where anyone can run for office without having to beg the rich and powerful for money is real democracy. That's when the change the American people want to see can take place.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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Not really.


The bigger point you and others are trying to make is that she is supported by the CEO's and not the people, but If im a bank teller at Wells Fargo and I donate to Hillary Clinton, all your link is going to say is that "Wells Fargo" donated.


its a complete misconception and misinterpretation of how the system works.
She has one of the lower amounts of individual contributions of any candidate running, yet amongst the highest in total amount received. Are we to believe that 12/hr tellers are donating by the thousand?

Let's not play dumb.

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Old 02-13-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Not really. The bigger point you and others are trying to make is that she is supported by the CEO's and not the people, but If im a bank teller at Wells Fargo and I donate to Hillary Clinton, all your link is going to say is that "Wells Fargo" donated. its a complete misconception and misinterpretation of how the system works.

This makes absolutely no sense. Furthermore you are not the CEO of Wells Fargo thus you create a hypothetical simply so you can shoot it in attempt to say that crony capitalism doesn't exist. Nobody believes this.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Hillary supporters hate Hispanics. They are intolerant bigots.
Other than your own opinion - source?
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