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1. If Trump's slogan is "Make America Great Again," are we to infer that America is not currently great? If so, when WAS is great? Could you give me a year or time period and explain why? What makes the country NOT great?
Good slogan, not sure how/if it could be accomplished, but somebody needs to try.
What makes us not so great- debt, personal and national; employment )or the lack of), and welfare, compounded by immigration (legal and illegal) and off-shoring of jobs;
some non-union employees brow-beaten by employers, while some unions have become too powerful and able to get a strangle-hold on some companies, which can contribute to the off-shoring of jobs in order to lower labor costs;
unbalanced taxation resulting in an increasing number of people 'riding the wagon' and fewer people pulling it, and particularly certain 'tax credits' that result in some people actually receiving a 'refund' that is greater than the taxes paid in (my wife is a tax preparer and I've *seen* this, I *know* that it occurs);
'legal' usury, in the form of exorbitant interest rates and schemes that contribute to personal debt, and particularly onerous to those who can least afford it, and people who are not taught how to manage credit and debt- I think that this has been occurring for so long that a great many people are totally ignorant of how it affects them and it is now so serious that it should be a required course in the school system (so many parents are so ignorant about this that they are incapable of teaching their children about it);
Too much 'PC', allowing tiny minorities of people to attempt to force 'acceptance' of their point of view over the greater majority;
Too much religious influence by certain groups where it should not be permitted (I may be a registered Republican that leans more toward Libertarian/'Tea Party' but, contrary to some peoples' ideas of the 'right wing' I am most definitely not religious, and I believe that religion has absolutely no place in the government);
Attempts to undermine and/or invalidate the Constitution;
What appears to be a progression towards communism/socialism completely contrary to the ideals on which this country was founded;
I could go on, but I don't have that much time...
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2. I am American but I'm currently living and working in SE Asia. I regularly interact with other SE Asians, Australians, Middle Easterners and Europeans and everyone of them I've met think that he's a joke and that Americans would be nuts to vote for him. Does that worry you?
No. I couldn't give a [rip] less what anyone from any other country thinks, or anyone who doesn't live here.
3. What plans has he laid out that will improve the condition of the country? How can he do a better job than Obama?
Hell, I think *I* could do a better job than Obama. I think that the country needs to be run more like a business and less like charity. The national debt is appalling. Trump is the man we need in the White House now, his success as a businessman is unarguable and he is EXACTLY the sort of President we need now. I would have liked to have seen Ross Perot elected years ago but he didn't stand a chance. Trump is perhaps the *first* non-lifetime politician to have garnered such an incredible amount of support that he actually stands a very good chance of being elected. That in itself is a telling indicator of public sentiment. Trump is competent, decisive and experienced, and despite some people claiming that the fact that he is not a 'politician' counts against him, he certainly has political experience- any businessman such as him has a great deal of political experience as this is very much a requirement of business. Deals must be negotiated and made, and there is little difference in the principals. A successful businessman *IS* a politician, even if he is not in the 'government'.
The Founders of this country were primarily landowners and businessmen, and it is their vision and ideals that won our freedom and built this country. We need to get back to that.
Trump speaks his mind, and says what a great many of us are thinking. Some may say he is crude and not 'PC', but I find that extraordinarilly refreshing...as do many others, which is clear by the support he already has and his success so far. Even if he *is* a little 'outspoken', there is no doubt that the Senate and Congress will be an ameliorating influence, that *is*, after all, one of their functions in the checks and balances designed into our method of government.
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4. Do you think he has a better chance against Hillary or Bernie? Why?
Either Hillary or Sanders would be more of the same as Obama, but worse...and Sanders, as an admitted Socialist would be worst of all. Sanders has support from the entitlement crowd and the very young, starry-eyed and idealistic crowd who are ignorant of the way life *really* works, the communistic utopia they envision has already proven to be unworkable due to the realities of human nature, but they do not have the experience to recognize this. That Sanders has made it as far as he has is disturbing.
Hillary is dishonest, a two-faced liar with socialistic leanings, at least Sanders admits to being communist. Given a choice between Sanders and Trump, I think Trump would be the victor by a landslide. Hillary is a more insidious opponent, and able to fool more people, thus she would be the more difficult opponent.
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5. Who do you think he should choose as his VP if he gets the nomination? Why?
*I* would like to see Paul LePage as his running mate, but that seems quite unlikely. Out of the rest of the field, I'd prefer to see either Kasick or Carson chosen. I think that Carson in particular would would help 'balance' Trump's outspokenness, but maybe too much. Kasich might be the best choice.
Cruz and Rubio are both non-starters. They are both nasty, dishonest, lying, pandering scumbuckets. I shudder to think of either one of them in the Oval Office. I think I might prefer to choose either Hillary or Sanders as VP, as much as I hate the two of them. I've watched both Cruz and Rubio on the TV and they both make my skin crawl. Some of the things they've said make me want to just give them a good pop in the mouth.
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6. Does his lack of political experience worry you? He claims he's going to do a lot, but he'll get nothing done if without Congress.
Already covered above, for the most part. He has plenty of experience with wheeling and dealing, and he has the experience to to able to work with Congress. Anyone who thinks/says different is a completely ignorant fool.
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7. If he gets elected, what would be his legacy?
*That*, is impossible to predict with surety. there are too many other factors involved.
Personally, I'd like to see the country on a better footing economically, national debt lowered and the middle/lower classes doing better fiinancially. As an ostensible member of the 'middle' class, I'm getting by, but just barely. Taxes are killing me but we make 'too much' to get any 'relief'. Crap, we bought our house, and when the deal closed it was between two periods that qualify for certain breaks. We tried to re-fi under HARP, but it was rejected because it was termed 'predatory' because it wouldn't give us *enough* benefit, despite the fact that the benefit would have been substantially better *to us*, with a lower interest rate and the ability to reduce to a 15 year mortgage, cutting years off the life of the loan and saving us 10s of thousands of dollars.
If things keep going the way they are, we won't be able to 'retire', in spite of our retirement accounts and SS, and plans to produce income from the property...if we can hold on to it.
I don't understand how the Republicans had such a miserable list of folks to select from. They had a pile of folks to begin with and the one joker in the pack seems to be (shall we say it?) trumping the others, but it's still just a joker.
Why were they able to field a real candidate? For that matter, why didn't the Democrats have more to choose from?
What I'd like to see is the rise of the Popular Party. Have every state select a candidate and then have them run against each other and let all the other states than the state they came from vote on them. Do it via call in votes like they do for Star Search or those other talent shows. Once they get down to the last person, put them on the presidential ballot. Then you'll have someone who is actually put forth by the people.
Another thing is this electoral collage, what's all that about. Seems to me, the people could want one thing and someone else could get the nod via the electoral college.
But, nobody cares about the opinions of the people in the state of Hawaii. Just hopefully all the mess that happens stays on the mainland.
Why does some one that doesn't live in the US care about our elections here in the US and why did the OP need to mention that the people where they live consider Trump a joke? And why did the OP see the need to even say they do not live in the US to begin with?
The reason no one is answering you is because you have already started negative thread.
A few people have answered, but I have not responded to them as I think others can do a good job.
First and foremost, I am an American living overseas. I was born and raised in Massachusetts but I happen to live overseas now. I still care deeply for the country and the leaders we elect.
I mentioned the part about people I know here thinking he's a joke because that seems to be the topic of discussion whenever they meet me. Even this weekend I went to a party full of Malaysians, Iranians and Europeans and it only took about 30 minutes (I timed it because I've learned to expect it) of me being there before someone decided to bring it up. Trump was universally condemned by everyone involved in the discussion.
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It's obvious that a bias selective reasoning for this has all ready been established and that this mind set will poison any comments.
I don't deny my bias as I do not like Trump, but how is asking about Trump's slogan or what you think his legacy poisoning the well?
I do not care what Malaysians, Iranians and Europeans think about anything in the USA. It means nothing. Zero.
Why? Their opinions might not matter for our domestic policy, but what about international agreements and treaties? If we can't work with the international community, how can we accomplish anything overseas?
Why? Their opinions might not matter for our domestic policy, but what about international agreements and treaties? If we can't work with the international community, how can we accomplish anything overseas?
So..........what was their overall consensus about who they thought would make the best president if not trump?
Good slogan, not sure how/if it could be accomplished, but somebody needs to try.
What makes us not so great- debt, personal and national; employment )or the lack of), and welfare, compounded by immigration (legal and illegal) and off-shoring of jobs;
some non-union employees brow-beaten by employers, while some unions have become too powerful and able to get a strangle-hold on some companies, which can contribute to the off-shoring of jobs in order to lower labor costs;
unbalanced taxation resulting in an increasing number of people 'riding the wagon' and fewer people pulling it, and particularly certain 'tax credits' that result in some people actually receiving a 'refund' that is greater than the taxes paid in (my wife is a tax preparer and I've *seen* this, I *know* that it occurs);
'legal' usury, in the form of exorbitant interest rates and schemes that contribute to personal debt, and particularly onerous to those who can least afford it, and people who are not taught how to manage credit and debt- I think that this has been occurring for so long that a great many people are totally ignorant of how it affects them and it is now so serious that it should be a required course in the school system (so many parents are so ignorant about this that they are incapable of teaching their children about it);
Too much 'PC', allowing tiny minorities of people to attempt to force 'acceptance' of their point of view over the greater majority;
Too much religious influence by certain groups where it should not be permitted (I may be a registered Republican that leans more toward Libertarian/'Tea Party' but, contrary to some peoples' ideas of the 'right wing' I am most definitely not religious, and I believe that religion has absolutely no place in the government);
Attempts to undermine and/or invalidate the Constitution;
What appears to be a progression towards communism/socialism completely contrary to the ideals on which this country was founded;
I could go on, but I don't have that much time...
No. I couldn't give a [rip] less what anyone from any other country thinks, or anyone who doesn't live here.
3. What plans has he laid out that will improve the condition of the country? How can he do a better job than Obama?
Hell, I think *I* could do a better job than Obama. I think that the country needs to be run more like a business and less like charity. The national debt is appalling. Trump is the man we need in the White House now, his success as a businessman is unarguable and he is EXACTLY the sort of President we need now. I would have liked to have seen Ross Perot elected years ago but he didn't stand a chance. Trump is perhaps the *first* non-lifetime politician to have garnered such an incredible amount of support that he actually stands a very good chance of being elected. That in itself is a telling indicator of public sentiment. Trump is competent, decisive and experienced, and despite some people claiming that the fact that he is not a 'politician' counts against him, he certainly has political experience- any businessman such as him has a great deal of political experience as this is very much a requirement of business. Deals must be negotiated and made, and there is little difference in the principals. A successful businessman *IS* a politician, even if he is not in the 'government'.
The Founders of this country were primarily landowners and businessmen, and it is their vision and ideals that won our freedom and built this country. We need to get back to that.
Trump speaks his mind, and says what a great many of us are thinking. Some may say he is crude and not 'PC', but I find that extraordinarilly refreshing...as do many others, which is clear by the support he already has and his success so far. Even if he *is* a little 'outspoken', there is no doubt that the Senate and Congress will be an ameliorating influence, that *is*, after all, one of their functions in the checks and balances designed into our method of government.
Either Hillary or Sanders would be more of the same as Obama, but worse...and Sanders, as an admitted Socialist would be worst of all. Sanders has support from the entitlement crowd and the very young, starry-eyed and idealistic crowd who are ignorant of the way life *really* works, the communistic utopia they envision has already proven to be unworkable due to the realities of human nature, but they do not have the experience to recognize this. That Sanders has made it as far as he has is disturbing.
Hillary is dishonest, a two-faced liar with socialistic leanings, at least Sanders admits to being communist. Given a choice between Sanders and Trump, I think Trump would be the victor by a landslide. Hillary is a more insidious opponent, and able to fool more people, thus she would be the more difficult opponent.
*I* would like to see Paul LePage as his running mate, but that seems quite unlikely. Out of the rest of the field, I'd prefer to see either Kasick or Carson chosen. I think that Carson in particular would would help 'balance' Trump's outspokenness, but maybe too much. Kasich might be the best choice.
Cruz and Rubio are both non-starters. They are both nasty, dishonest, lying, pandering scumbuckets. I shudder to think of either one of them in the Oval Office. I think I might prefer to choose either Hillary or Sanders as VP, as much as I hate the two of them. I've watched both Cruz and Rubio on the TV and they both make my skin crawl. Some of the things they've said make me want to just give them a good pop in the mouth.
Already covered above, for the most part. He has plenty of experience with wheeling and dealing, and he has the experience to to able to work with Congress. Anyone who thinks/says different is a completely ignorant fool.
*That*, is impossible to predict with surety. there are too many other factors involved.
Personally, I'd like to see the country on a better footing economically, national debt lowered and the middle/lower classes doing better fiinancially. As an ostensible member of the 'middle' class, I'm getting by, but just barely. Taxes are killing me but we make 'too much' to get any 'relief'. Crap, we bought our house, and when the deal closed it was between two periods that qualify for certain breaks. We tried to re-fi under HARP, but it was rejected because it was termed 'predatory' because it wouldn't give us *enough* benefit, despite the fact that the benefit would have been substantially better *to us*, with a lower interest rate and the ability to reduce to a 15 year mortgage, cutting years off the life of the loan and saving us 10s of thousands of dollars.
If things keep going the way they are, we won't be able to 'retire', in spite of our retirement accounts and SS, and plans to produce income from the property...if we can hold on to it.
I don't want to attack you because you're one of the few to admit to liking trump. First of all the OP nailed it, trump is all about wasp supremacy. That is clear. That is his the only thing that his voters have in common.
It sounds like you are trying to blame welfare recipients and illegals for America's downfall. Do you not understand that Bush's war machine destabilized the US economy/Dollar, allowed the Euro to overtake the USD, caused the stock market to crash, slaughtered a bunch of people, caused bitter division, caused 9/11, turned the national budget surplus into national debt, and gave us obama?
Illegals are a small problem but they are far from the only problem. Anyway I think trump just appeals to the racists. There's no other rationale.
Good slogan, not sure how/if it could be accomplished, but somebody needs to try.
What makes us not so great- debt, personal and national; employment )or the lack of), and welfare, compounded by immigration (legal and illegal) and off-shoring of jobs;
Fair point, but the deficit is slowly reducing every year, which will hopefully have an effect on the debt. But what about Trump's plan will bring down the debt? What is his plan?
some non-union employees brow-beaten by employers, while some unions have become too powerful and able to get a strangle-hold on some companies, which can contribute to the off-shoring of jobs in order to lower labor costs;
Another fair point, but it's not the unions who are forcing the jobs overseas. It is simply cheaper to get most products made in China or Mexico and ship them over. We could eliminate our free trade deals, but I'm afraid it would cause a trade war that might put us in a worse situation
unbalanced taxation resulting in an increasing number of people 'riding the wagon' and fewer people pulling it, and particularly certain 'tax credits' that result in some people actually receiving a 'refund' that is greater than the taxes paid in (my wife is a tax preparer and I've *seen* this, I *know* that it occurs);
'legal' usury, in the form of exorbitant interest rates and schemes that contribute to personal debt, and particularly onerous to those who can least afford it, and people who are not taught how to manage credit and debt- I think that this has been occurring for so long that a great many people are totally ignorant of how it affects them and it is now so serious that it should be a required course in the school system (so many parents are so ignorant about this that they are incapable of teaching their children about it);
Too much 'PC', allowing tiny minorities of people to attempt to force 'acceptance' of their point of view over the greater majority;
How can Trump change this? There are no laws that require to be PC. To be honest, I do find the PC of the left wing to be a big uncomfortable at times, but the right wing has their own brand of PC as well
Too much religious influence by certain groups where it should not be permitted (I may be a registered Republican that leans more toward Libertarian/'Tea Party' but, contrary to some peoples' ideas of the 'right wing' I am most definitely not religious, and I believe that religion has absolutely no place in the government);
I agree with you about religion, but Obama has rarely spoken about his faith other than to pander to religious conservatives. Trump has done the same.
Attempts to undermine and/or invalidate the Constitution;
I'm not sure what you mean by this? Who is undermining the Constitution?
What appears to be a progression towards communism/socialism completely contrary to the ideals on which this country was founded;
I could go on, but I don't have that much time...
With any time you have available, could you answer my other question. "When was America great? What era should we look to when we think about a great time period for America?
No. I couldn't give a [rip] less what anyone from any other country thinks, or anyone who doesn't live here.
Why not? Don't we have to work with the international community to achieve goals around the world? If, for example, Korea and Japan tire of working with President Trump, how willing will they be to work with us against North Korea?
3. What plans has he laid out that will improve the condition of the country? How can he do a better job than Obama?
Hell, I think *I* could do a better job than Obama. I think that the country needs to be run more like a business and less like charity. The national debt is appalling. Trump is the man we need in the White House now, his success as a businessman is unarguable and he is EXACTLY the sort of President we need now. I would have liked to have seen Ross Perot elected years ago but he didn't stand a chance. Trump is perhaps the *first* non-lifetime politician to have garnered such an incredible amount of support that he actually stands a very good chance of being elected. That in itself is a telling indicator of public sentiment. Trump is competent, decisive and experienced, and despite some people claiming that the fact that he is not a 'politician' counts against him, he certainly has political experience- any businessman such as him has a great deal of political experience as this is very much a requirement of business. Deals must be negotiated and made, and there is little difference in the principals. A successful businessman *IS* a politician, even if he is not in the 'government'.
The Founders of this country were primarily landowners and businessmen, and it is their vision and ideals that won our freedom and built this country. We need to get back to that.
Trump speaks his mind, and says what a great many of us are thinking. Some may say he is crude and not 'PC', but I find that extraordinarilly refreshing...as do many others, which is clear by the support he already has and his success so far. Even if he *is* a little 'outspoken', there is no doubt that the Senate and Congress will be an ameliorating influence, that *is*, after all, one of their functions in the checks and balances designed into our method of government.
I can only say that I've been to one country that "runs like a business" and that was Singapore. I won't deny that Singapore is a great country, but it operates on a completely different level from almost every other country in the world. It's basically an Island, with no rural areas and the cost of living is VERY high. Still 85% of the people live in some form of government housing and may people with less education work a lot of hours just to be able to put a roof over their heads.
Also, Trump may "speak his mind" but what says isn't very productive to the national discourse. Every debate he's been in, if somebody challenges his views, he turns around and insults him. He may speak his mind, but he seems to get caught up in lies more than any other candidate.
Either Hillary or Sanders would be more of the same as Obama, but worse...and Sanders, as an admitted Socialist would be worst of all. Sanders has support from the entitlement crowd and the very young, starry-eyed and idealistic crowd who are ignorant of the way life *really* works, the communistic utopia they envision has already proven to be unworkable due to the realities of human nature, but they do not have the experience to recognize this. That Sanders has made it as far as he has is disturbing.
Hillary is dishonest, a two-faced liar with socialistic leanings, at least Sanders admits to being communist. Given a choice between Sanders and Trump, I think Trump would be the victor by a landslide. Hillary is a more insidious opponent, and able to fool more people, thus she would be the more difficult opponent.
I won't defend Hillary here, but I won't deny the fact that's she's my second choice for President. Bernie, on the other hand is a democratic socialist, not a socialist dictator. I think he's probably done himself a disservice by labeling himself as it seems like everyone who opposes him thinks he wants the US to look more like the USSR or Cuba. That's definitely not what he wants. He wants to be more like Central and Northern Europe - a region that has arguably the highest standard of living in the world
*I* would like to see Paul LePage as his running mate, but that seems quite unlikely. Out of the rest of the field, I'd prefer to see either Kasick or Carson chosen. I think that Carson in particular would would help 'balance' Trump's outspokenness, but maybe too much. Kasich might be the best choice.
LePage? Really? Page seems to act like Trump without the charisma.
Cruz and Rubio are both non-starters. They are both nasty, dishonest, lying, pandering scumbuckets. I shudder to think of either one of them in the Oval Office. I think I might prefer to choose either Hillary or Sanders as VP, as much as I hate the two of them. I've watched both Cruz and Rubio on the TV and they both make my skin crawl. Some of the things they've said make me want to just give them a good pop in the mouth.
I fear a Cruz presidency more than Trump.
Already covered above, for the most part. He has plenty of experience with wheeling and dealing, and he has the experience to to able to work with Congress. Anyone who thinks/says different is a completely ignorant fool.
*That*, is impossible to predict with surety. there are too many other factors involved.
Personally, I'd like to see the country on a better footing economically, national debt lowered and the middle/lower classes doing better fiinancially. As an ostensible member of the 'middle' class, I'm getting by, but just barely. Taxes are killing me but we make 'too much' to get any 'relief'. Crap, we bought our house, and when the deal closed it was between two periods that qualify for certain breaks. We tried to re-fi under HARP, but it was rejected because it was termed 'predatory' because it wouldn't give us *enough* benefit, despite the fact that the benefit would have been substantially better *to us*, with a lower interest rate and the ability to reduce to a 15 year mortgage, cutting years off the life of the loan and saving us 10s of thousands of dollars.
If things keep going the way they are, we won't be able to 'retire', in spite of our retirement accounts and SS, and plans to produce income from the property...if we can hold on to it.
Now, I'm out of time so I couldn't cover everything. But I think you get my points above in red
They believe that blacks, like the President, browns, women, gays, and liberals are too much in control of this nation.
They want to see white conservatives back in complete control. That is one of the reasons why he appeals to the white bigots - like the KKK.
In '12, the ONLY group that the Republicans appealed to in the majority, were white males over the age of 40. Since then, they have done practically nothing to appeal to other groups.
Wrong. In 2012, Republicans won the majority of married men (60%-38%) and married women (53%-46%). That's a pretty big deal.
And how is thinking that "browns, women, gays, and liberals are too much in control of this nation" bigoted in any meaningful sense? Your desire to keep the people you don't like from having political power is obviously just as "bigoted". Apparently, you are just like the KKK.
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