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Old 03-15-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Same with Trump, he would get no coverage if he ran as an independent.
Oh, well, that's certainly a good reason to compromise your principles then.

Bernie Sanders 2016: Can He Win the Love of a Party He Scorns? - POLITICO Magazine
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Bernie did the normal and right thing, no scandal here, it's part of how a winner-take-all electoral system works, and he knows it. Don't give us this adolescent crap about principles.

Ron Paul did the same thing, Donald Trump is doing the same thing, so is Bernie, and in one way or another I have respected or supported them all.

Ron Paul because he stigmatized how the "establishment" have urinated in our money supply (although his proposed solution was naïve), Trump because he is kicking them in the crotch

I like Bernie because, well, besides first and foremost his cute Jewish Brooklyn accent, he stigmatizes the need for higher wages to get the economy going again (though in his case too, the proposal how to achieve that is naïve, and besides it's only one piece of the puzzle).

I'm not sure we would be better off in a proportional representation system and in any case it's not on the agenda.

Good Luck!
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Bernie did the normal and right thing, no scandal here, it's part of how a winner-take-all electoral system works, and he knows it.

Ron Paul did the same thing, Donald Trump is doing the same thing, so is Bernie, and in one way or another I have respected or supported them all.

Ron Paul because he stigmatized how the "establishment" have urinated in our money supply (although his proposed solution was naïve), Trump because he is kicking them in the crotch.

I like Bernie because, well, despite his cute Jewish Brooklyn accent, he stigmatizes the need for higher wages to get the economy going again (though in his case too, the proposal how to achieve that is naïve, and besides it's only one piece of the puzzle).

I'm not sure we would be better off in a proportional representation system and in any case it's not on the agenda.

Good Luck!
Ron Paul is the ONLY politician has addressed the real issues without creating unnecessary scapegoats. I agree with the bold.

I also want to add Rand Paul. He also did the same thing.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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Democrats and Republicans work together so that alternative voices aren't given a legitimate platform. Politics is about compromise and that is what Bernie had to do to be heard.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Oh, well, that's certainly a good reason to compromise your principles then.

Bernie Sanders 2016: Can He Win the Love of a Party He Scorns? - POLITICO Magazine
That's the same thing Trump is trying to do. Fix a broken party.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'm voting for Sanders but I hope Trump wins the GOP nomination. The same thing but opposite.
Good for you.
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Fed prints out paper money in order to fix the financial crisis.
Even though the Federal government made $65 billion from the bailouts?

Mick
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Even though the Federal government made $65 billion from the bailouts?

Mick
Like I said, Fed prints out paper money in order to fix the financial crisis, NO countries in HUMAN HISTORY can be able to do that.

I think you should watch the Ron Paul interview, you can find it on youtube
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I don't understand the point the OP is trying to make either. Sanders caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate and has the legal right to run as a Democrat in the primaries, even though he is ideologically a Social Democrat. So what?
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't understand the point the OP is trying to make either. Sanders caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate and has the legal right to run as a Democrat in the primaries, even though he is ideologically a Social Democrat. So what?
.. agreed. Plus,
Bernie Sanders Is No Socialist
Social democracy would have been an easier label to defend – and more accurate.
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