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Exactly. Hillary ran for Senate in a state she had not been a resident. What does a hick from Arkansas know about NY issues??? This was as sick as Nelson Rockefeller sending his kid Jay to be Governor of West Virginia to get him some political experience.
I was always told that it was because he wanted to keep Jay far away from the business side of the family.
Can one defend many years later every single vote over 25 years? No, but we already had this thread with links (and I believe this same article) as to why Sanders voted as he did.
Bernie never called blacks "super predators" (and if you want to vote for someone that did, have at it) and how does the article end?
Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, resorted to dog whistle politics and dehumanizing language. Bernie was right then and he's right now."
No it doesn't. It ends with a quote from the Sanders' campaign. You just proved that anyone can twist words to change an entire article to attack Hillary which is exactly what Bernie has been doing when it comes to her voting record.
"When this so-called crime bill was being considered," Weaver, Sanders' campaign manager, said in the press release last week, "Bernie Sanders criticized its harsh incarceration and death penalty provisions. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, resorted to dog whistle politics and dehumanizing language. Bernie was right then and he's right now."
How many times will his supporters accept his excuses, i.e., for voting against gay marriage? In 2006 he blocked it from becoming law in Vermont. Now he's claiming to be a big supporter of gay rights. Sure, he voted against DOMA, but he specifically said it was because of States' Rights. He voted against Immigration Reform and, on CNN in 2007, agreed with Lou Dobbs that immigration reform and amnesty would hurt American workers. Now he's adding that the bill was "akin to slavery." I cannot find those words anywhere except in this campaign where he's trying to get the Latino vote.
No it doesn't. It ends with a quote from the Sanders' campaign. You just proved that anyone can twist words to change an entire article to attack Hillary which is exactly what Bernie has been doing when it comes to her voting record.
"When this so-called crime bill was being considered," Weaver, Sanders' campaign manager, said in the press release last week, "Bernie Sanders criticized its harsh incarceration and death penalty provisions. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, resorted to dog whistle politics and dehumanizing language. Bernie was right then and he's right now."
How many times will his supporters accept his excuses, i.e., for voting against gay marriage? In 2006 he blocked it from becoming law in Vermont. Now he's claiming to be a big supporter of gay rights. Sure, he voted against DOMA, but he specifically said it was because of States' Rights. He voted against Immigration Reform and, on CNN in 2007, agreed with Lou Dobbs that immigration reform and amnesty would hurt American workers. Now he's adding that the bill was "akin to slavery." I cannot find those words anywhere except in this campaign where he's trying to get the Latino vote.
This is B.S. Bernie believed that same-sex marriage was up to the states. Vermont was the first state to pass Civil Unions in 2000. Then in 2009 it became the first state to passed same-sex marriage by the state legislature as opposed to a ballot initiative like other states. Bernie had NOTHING to do with its passage because he wasn't a member of the state legislature.
This is B.S. Bernie believed that same-sex marriage was up to the states. Vermont was the first state to pass Civil Unions in 2000. Then in 2009 it became the first state to passed same-sex marriage by the state legislature as opposed to a ballot initiative like other states. Bernie had NOTHING to do with its passage because he wasn't a member of the state legislature.
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I think you just confirmed what I wrote.
[URL="http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longti me_champion.html"]Bernie Sanders Claims He’s a Longtime Champion of Marriage Equality. It’s Just Not True.[/URL]
[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-anderson/the-big-bernie-sanders-li_b_9097284.html"]The Big Bernie Sanders Lie (That They Keep Telling)[/URL]
[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage_us_569fcc4de4b0a7026bf9e06f"]Bernie Sanders Was No 'Pioneer' On Same-Sex Marriage
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"As one Vermont columnist put it in 2000, getting a straight answer from Sanders on gay marriage "was like pulling teeth... from a rhinoceros." In 2006, Sanders said he supported civil unions but not same-sex marriage, again deferring to states."
"As one Vermont columnist put it in 2000, getting a straight answer from Sanders on gay marriage "was like pulling teeth... from a rhinoceros." In 2006, Sanders said he supported civil unions but not same-sex marriage, again deferring to states."
You said that he BLOCKED it from becoming law. That is what I was arguing. He didn't BLOCK anything.
And while it wasn't an issue that he was charged up about, he didn't fight against it. At the time he was FOR Civil-Unions. And when Vermont passed same-sex marriages, he was for that, too.
You said that he BLOCKED it from becoming law. That is what I was arguing. He didn't BLOCK anything.
And while it wasn't an issue that he was charged up about, he didn't fight against it. At the time he was FOR Civil-Unions. And when Vermont passed same-sex marriages, he was for that, too.
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Okay, so I used the wrong word, but I was trying to make a point. He was against gay marriage on a Federal level but, again, the same rules do not apply to Hillary. Seriously, I don't even enjoy arguing with Sanders' supporters, since he would be my second choice, but if you can make the excuse for his position on an issue that he wasn't even a State Legislator, why is Hillary, who wasn't even a politician at the time, being blamed for NAFTA? My point is that he keeps talking about DOMA as if he voted against it in support of gay marriage, which is not truthful. He voted against it to protect state's rights. I don't remember his exact words, but he said during a debate or town meeting recently that bills often contain some good and some bad. I agree but, as I keep repeating, according to many of his supporters, when it comes to Hillary Clinton's voting record, it's all bad.
Okay, so I used the wrong word, but I was trying to make a point. He was against gay marriage on a Federal level but, again, the same rules do not apply to Hillary. Seriously, I don't even enjoy arguing with Sanders' supporters, since he would be my second choice, but if you can make the excuse for his position on an issue that he wasn't even a State Legislator, why is Hillary, who wasn't even a politician at the time, being blamed for NAFTA? My point is that he keeps talking about DOMA as if he voted against it in support of gay marriage, which is not truthful. He voted against it to protect state's rights. I don't remember his exact words, but he said during a debate or town meeting recently that bills often contain some good and some bad. I agree but, as I keep repeating, according to many of his supporters, when it comes to Hillary Clinton's voting record, it's all bad.
I don't blame Hillary for NAFTA. I blame her husband for it. And I'm not saying that your voting record is all bad. I just think that her position on many issues sways with the wind (like many politicians). But, I have said this before and I will say it again, if Hillary is the Dem nom, I will hold my nose and vote for her. She is not my candidate of choice but she certainly beats the alternative.
Although I do not blame him for running as a Democrat, I do believe his record proves he has changed his views to get more votes and his accusations against Hillary are misleading. I realize every politician does that, but he seems to be getting away with it.
"But Sanders has been in the House or Senate for more than 25 years, and during all that time, any politician's voting record is bound to have some inconsistencies. Sanders is no exception. At times he's voted in favor of bills on national security, criminal justice, and immigration that he says he now opposes, attacking Clinton for casting the same votes that he did."
No it doesn't. It ends with a quote from the Sanders' campaign. You just proved that anyone can twist words to change an entire article to attack Hillary which is exactly what Bernie has been doing when it comes to her voting record.
"When this so-called crime bill was being considered," Weaver, Sanders' campaign manager, said in the press release last week, "Bernie Sanders criticized its harsh incarceration and death penalty provisions. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, resorted to dog whistle politics and dehumanizing language. Bernie was right then and he's right now."
How many times will his supporters accept his excuses, i.e., for voting against gay marriage? In 2006 he blocked it from becoming law in Vermont. Now he's claiming to be a big supporter of gay rights. Sure, he voted against DOMA, but he specifically said it was because of States' Rights. He voted against Immigration Reform and, on CNN in 2007, agreed with Lou Dobbs that immigration reform and amnesty would hurt American workers. Now he's adding that the bill was "akin to slavery." I cannot find those words anywhere except in this campaign where he's trying to get the Latino vote.
It will.
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