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The party just doesn't see the forest through the trees. They are not happy that Trump is winning, but they let him on the ticket. Instead of realizing he was the only one focused on the economy and generating American jobs, they kept their heads in the (special interest) sand.
Trump is no politician, but he knows how media works. Instead of adapting, the GOP has put heels in the sand and have moved to divisive tactics. Today some 'GOP strategist' stated that the party chooses the nominee, not the people. Making it public that the 'party elders will pick a candidate that supports their values' instead of who the people have chosen. This shows how out of touch the GOP has become. The reason Trump and Bernie have become popular is the high disillusionment with the current system... both parties had 8 years to develop candidates and they both failed miserably.
A few years ago, I was a card carrying member of the GOP. Now, I'm ashamed of the party, they are dead to me. FWIW I did not vote for Trump in the primary.
Reducing the power of both parties to "choose" who we vote for is a good thing. Trump and Bernie were the best things to have happened to the future American electorate.
Nobody else is focusing on the economy and generating American jobs? Really? What is Trump's economic plan? He only issued two plans, his tax-plan and his health plan. The tax-plan slashes taxes, mainly on the rich, creating an additional $10 trillion in debt and the health plan goes back to the pre-ACA system and throws millions off their health insurance.
Incidentally, the other GOP candidates all have similar tax plans the slash taxes on the rich and blow up the debt.
So again, how exactly is Mr. Trump focused on the economy and generating American jobs in a positive way?
Because we're not winning anymore. And when Trump gets elected ~ America is going to WIN, WIN,WIN!
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
Maybe you haven't listened to his speeches. He clearly states that he will be pulling out of these "free trade" deals that have devastated jobs in the USA and he states how this will be accomplished.
Of course this will put him up against the "establishment" in congress who will try to stop it. But in a congress vs Trump war, my money is on Trump.
I'm curious to know how he's going to overturn NAFTA. Tariffs are going to pass the high costs directly to middle America. He better make sure the middle class gets a raise. Since he already thinks American wages are TOO HIGH, I don't have a lot of faith in this regard.
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Originally Posted by juppiter
Bernie's surprising appeal to young voters is foretelling a future meltdown in the Democratic Party -- the Obama coalition cannot last forever. I think it will last through this election, but there is trouble ahead. A side effect of the democrats getting so hammered in 2010 and 2014 is that the party leaders are aging, and the party is out of touch with its younger voters who want to see income inequality addressed.
The republican meltdown is in full swing and I truly hope the party re-emerges as a sane, governing party, which it hasn't been for 8 years now. But the democrats are in trouble too.
I agree. Bernie's supporters need to spend less time on social media and more time actually voting. They need to vote at LOCAL and State elections to start the movement to the far left since that is where they seem to be.
Maybe you haven't listened to his speeches. He clearly states that he will be pulling out of these "free trade" deals that have devastated jobs in the USA and he states how this will be accomplished.
Of course this will put him up against the "establishment" in congress who will try to stop it. But in a congress vs Trump war, my money is on Trump.
When is his company going to pull out of these "free trade" deals?
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Reducing the power of both parties to "choose" who we vote for is a good thing. Trump and Bernie were the best things to have happened to the future American electorate.
They are eye openers! We get to really see who is running America; we get to see the whole conspiracy. When have we ever had other world leaders tell us that one of our candidates was unacceptable? When have we ever had one Party spend so much money trying to stop their own candidate from being nominated? When have we had so many ever tell so many that we are stupid and unfit to vote? When have we ever actually seen mainstream media for the paid propaganda that has become their main battle cry?
The amount of money being spent to stop Trump is more than the amount of money needed to totally fix the problems with the Flint Michigan water supply (that is estimated at around $60 million). Heck; Flint Michigan could have both a new water supply and sewage system for what these wealthy control freaks are wasting on ads, think tanks, and protest. If Trump spent what Soros, with the help of his Move On organization, is spending; we would lock him up for instigating riots.
The party just doesn't see the forest through the trees. They are not happy that Trump is winning, but they let him on the ticket. Instead of realizing he was the only one focused on the economy and generating American jobs, they kept their heads in the (special interest) sand.
Trump is no politician, but he knows how media works. Instead of adapting, the GOP has put heels in the sand and have moved to divisive tactics. Today some 'GOP strategist' stated that the party chooses the nominee, not the people. Making it public that the 'party elders will pick a candidate that supports their values' instead of who the people have chosen. This shows how out of touch the GOP has become. The reason Trump and Bernie have become popular is the high disillusionment with the current system... both parties had 8 years to develop candidates and they both failed miserably.
A few years ago, I was a card carrying member of the GOP. Now, I'm ashamed of the party, they are dead to me. FWIW I did not vote for Trump in the primary.
If they pull some shenanigans and keep Trump out if he wins a plurality of states, delegates, and votes, I'm done with them. If they nominate someone who wasn't in the race (Romney) or dropped out (Bush), it proves that the primary process and will of the people is meaningless. At that point, it's little more than the club doling out favors to one another.
The fact that the people have no say will be a fatal blow to the party, and will be a big hit to the general faith in government.
Its been Clintons election to lose for more than 4 years, she was the overwhelming favorite going in. You can't deny that Bernie has drummed up much more support than most gave him credit for. The anti-establishment sentiment is growing by leaps and bounds, hence Trump & Bernie.
The huge difference is Bernie is an experienced politician and Trump is not. Trump is a true aberration; neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have ever supported a complete outsider to politics this much or this long before.
America has elected only one outsider who never held previous political office. Dwight Eisenhower. But Eisenhower, as the commanding general of the European alliance, was already skilled politically, as he had dealt with the leading politicians of the age for years. He also understood the workings of Congress very well because of his singular position. He was by far the most popular man in the nation, and that helped him a lot. So, even though he was a total novice, he already had experience, and most importantly, knew his way around Washington D.C.
The fact is; a politician has skills that are needed to perform the job. A beginner has to learn how to become and expert, but has enough skill to win the job.
The skill set has to be good enough for a politician to thread his way through all the complications of a democratic republic. The art of negotiation is only one of many different skills that are needed.
Total outsiders have none of these skills. They may have similar skills, but national politics is a specialty unto itself.
It's like comparing a nuclear chemist to a high school science teacher.
Bernie's surprising appeal to young voters is foretelling a future meltdown in the Democratic Party -- the Obama coalition cannot last forever. I think it will last through this election, but there is trouble ahead. A side effect of the democrats getting so hammered in 2010 and 2014 is that the party leaders are aging, and the party is out of touch with its younger voters who want to see income inequality addressed.
The republican meltdown is in full swing and I truly hope the party re-emerges as a sane, governing party, which it hasn't been for 8 years now. But the democrats are in trouble too.
This is a great post, Juppiter. I'm glad that there are some Democrats who are smart enough to see that the Democratic Party has huge problems on the horizon.
The fact of the matter is that Hillary got a big break when Elizabeth Warren chose not to run. Given the success that Sanders (who is an admitted socialist) has experienced, Warren (who, at least publicly, has never admitted to being a socialist) would likely have defeated Hillary for the nomination. And furthermore, Hillary was very lucky to have had the entire Democratic establishment behind her; this establishment not only strong-armed Warren from running, but they heavily pressured Biden from running as well. While the Democratic establishment is currently in much better shape than the GOP establishment, it is only a matter of time before their power also begins to weaken.
I think that the Democratic Party--in part because it has been so dominant at the presidential level for a very long time--is moving too far to the left, and that this will hurt the party badly in future presidential cycles. The GOP, following its huge success in the presidential elections of the 1980s and the Congressional elections of 1994, moved too far to the right, and that movement really hurt the party at the ballot box (during recent presidential election cycles).
If Hillary actually crushes Trump at the polls, I fully anticipate two things to happen: First, I think that the GOP will finally get its act together, and emerge as a much stronger party in 2020. Secondly, the Democrats will likely become super-complacent, having won the popular vote in six out of the last seven presidential elections.
And if history is any guide, the GOP will be able to recover within four years, because that is what happened the last time the GOP had a major meltdown (in 1964). Meanwhile, the Democrats were becoming very complacent and very restless, which is why that party experienced such a crisis in 1968. Because Hillary--who like LBJ--is despised by many in the far-left base, troubling sings are present that indicate a major Democratic crisis in 2020.
Nobody else is focusing on the economy and generating American jobs? Really? What is Trump's economic plan? He only issued two plans, his tax-plan and his health plan. The tax-plan slashes taxes, mainly on the rich, creating an additional $10 trillion in debt and the health plan goes back to the pre-ACA system and throws millions off their health insurance.
Incidentally, the other GOP candidates all have similar tax plans the slash taxes on the rich and blow up the debt.
So again, how exactly is Mr. Trump focused on the economy and generating American jobs in a positive way?
Wrong. Go to his website and learn the truth.
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