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Old 03-18-2016, 10:55 PM
 
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Look at those numbers, oooooff! Said it before and I will say it again, if its Hillary and Trump, he will lose in an epic landslide. It will be one of the most lopsided elections in history.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...roups-n2135769

In a hypothetical Clinton v. Trump contest in November, voters under 35 would choose Clinton by a crushing 52%-19%, a preference that crosses demographic lines. Among whites, she'd be backed by nearly 2-1, 45%-26%. Among Hispanics, by more than 4-1, 61%-14%. Among Asian Americans, by 5-1, 60%-11%. Among African Americans, by 13-1, 67%-5%. ...Nearly one in four Republicans would defect to the Democrats if the GOP nominated Trump against Clinton. Just 7% of Democrats would defect to the GOP. A new Reuters poll shows that fully 50 percent of American women hold a "very unfavorable" view of Trump, up ten points since the fall. The survey predicts that Clinton would beat Trump among women by 14 points, while Trump would narrowly carry men. That math portends a decisive loss. A new Gallup poll shows that only 12 percent of U.S. Hispanics have a favorable opinion of Trump, while 77 percent have an unfavorable view of him. By comparison, 59 percent of Hispanics have a favorable view of Democratic hopeful Hillary Clinton.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:59 PM
 
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I'll play the role of Trump supporter: 'It's a media conspiracy! Even if it's true, there are enough old white voters to put him over the top! Go Trump!'

How'd I do? Was that at least somewhat believable?
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:00 PM
 
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I'll play the role of Trump supporter: 'It's a media conspiracy! Even if it's true, there are enough old white voters to put him over the top! Go Trump!'

How'd I do? Was that at least somewhat believable?
You can't win with just the white Vote anymore those days are over. Plus plenty of young white mellenials do not like Trump
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:02 PM
 
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I'll play the role of Trump supporter: 'It's a media conspiracy! Even if it's true, there are enough old white voters to put him over the top! Go Trump!'

How'd I do? Was that at least somewhat believable?
Pretty good, except its not even "old white people", he does terribly with women regardless of race. His base of support is old white men, the fastest shrinking demographic out there.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:08 PM
 
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Do everyone a favor--worry about the generals when it is time.

HILLARY PROBABLY BEATS TRUMP, which is why a lot of us wanted anyone but Trump. That being said:

1) Trump has the potential to double his support. His voters are Jackson Democrats/Reagan Democrats/non-traditional Republicans. The establishment is going to have to play ball, and he can probably get a lot of that base back. A lot of the dimmer bulbs amongst the Dems don't get that there is the serious potenial for backfire here, but a lot of the smarter ones do.

2) Trump will never get Hispanics but he has more of a chance of peeling off black voters than any other Republican would have. He can go to them and say honestly that he is a genuine liberal, and point out that their community is needs the jobs he is promising more than any. He doesn't need much. If he gets to 10% of the black vote he cannot lose the election.

3) Hillary's support is tepid at best and she might get indicted.

Just wait until the nominations are locked up and then we will see what happens.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:12 PM
 
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And what were the results among people who don't waste their time answering polls?
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:13 PM
 
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You can't win with just the white Vote anymore those days are over. Plus plenty of young white mellenials do not like Trump
I know it's difficult to convey sarcasm in writing, but didn't you read my second paragraph? Perhaps another example:

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Pretty good, except its not even "old white people", he does terribly with women regardless of race. His base of support is old white men, the fastest shrinking demographic out there.
'No! the idea that old white men are a shrinking demographic is a media lie! White men actually age like Benjamin Button! Therefore, old white men are gradually getting younger! This is only the case for white men though; all other demographics age conventionally.'

Is the sarcasm more clear now?
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:15 PM
 
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Do everyone a favor--worry about the generals when it is time.

HILLARY PROBABLY BEATS TRUMP, which is why a lot of us wanted anyone but Trump. That being said:

1) Trump has the potential to double his support. His voters are Jackson Democrats/Reagan Democrats/non-traditional Republicans. The establishment is going to have to play ball, and he can probably get a lot of that base back. A lot of the dimmer bulbs amongst the Dems don't get that there is the serious potenial for backfire here, but a lot of the smarter ones do.

2) Trump will never get Hispanics but he has more of a chance of peeling off black voters than any other Republican would have. He can go to them and say honestly that he is a genuine liberal, and point out that their community is needs the jobs he is promising more than any. He doesn't need much. If he gets to 10% of the black vote he cannot lose the election.

3) Hillary's support is tepid at best and she might get indicted.

Just wait until the nominations are locked up and then we will see what happens.
1) Double his support? Every day that goes by he LOSES more support as more Republicans come right out and say they back Cruz and will never support Trump.

2) Hillary is destroying Sanders with black voters but you think Trump will somehow get them to vote for him over Hillary? LOL!!

3) Hillary's support is tepid? She has over a MILLION more votes than Trump does and the GOP is seeing record turnouts while Democratic turnout has been way down. Thats anything but tepid. As for an indictment, it would have happened by now, wishful thinking.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:18 PM
 
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I know it's difficult to convey sarcasm in writing, but didn't you read my second paragraph? Perhaps another example:


'No! the idea that old white men are a shrinking demographic is a media lie! White men actually age like Benjamin Button! Therefore, old white men are gradually getting younger! This is only the case for white men though; all other demographics age conventionally.'

Is the sarcasm more clear now?
Sorry my bad..
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:19 PM
 
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And what were the results among people who don't waste their time answering polls?
The margins quoted in this article are so Y-U-U-U-U-G-E that they easily cancel out any errors in sampling.
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