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Is that your pants I see on fire? Why yes it is. He never said that.
I have lost a lot of respect for Bernie Sanders because he has succumbed to "politics" and has abandoned some of the positions that he believes for the sake of political expediency. I liked him because he seemed like a genuine guy and was willing to stand up to his own party on issues even though he knew it would be unpopular. For instance, his stand on suing gun manufacturers. It didn't take long before political pressure got to him and he reversed course. Oh, and then he reversed back, and then reversed again. Today, his position on the issue remains unclear at best.
Another example is how he once said that illegal immigration keeps wages low. He knew that importing uneducated, unskilled workers from other countries would have a detrimental effect on American workers, but has abandoned those principles as well. He's just another politician after all, willing to say whatever he thinks he needs to in order to get votes.
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Nowhere does he say he would give protections to every illegal. He has been very clear that any with a criminal record would be deported.
See the problem with your statement there? I underlined and italicized the two key words in your sentence...
All illegal immigrants, by definition, are criminals.
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adding that he also “can make that promise” that he won’t deport non-criminal undocumented immigrants.
To take this position assumes that voters actually have a right to weigh in on the nominee of a private organization. They don't.
If they want members they do. They can play their games but as we are seeing, people are not going to support them.
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It's been said many times before and bears repeating, The Republican Party and Democratic Party are private organizations. If someone doesn't like the way they choose their representatives, they have every right to run as an independent or create their own political party.
Or throw them out.
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The rules say a candidate must get 1237 delegates to win the nomination. If no one get's that number, then that means that some delegates will have to vote for someone other than who their district voted for, in order to get to a majority. Otherwise, you'd just have a stale mate with the delegates voting the same way every time, and where would that leave us? If the delegates are forever bound to the decision of the voters that sent them there, and no one has the required amount of delegates, there's no way to get a nominee, without repealing the rule that requires an absolute majority, which is a bad idea in itself because it sets up a situation where a minority get's to decide, which makes it easier for a weak candidate to win.
If Trump isn't the nominee, not only does the GOP lose this year, they lose in 2018, 2020, etc.
I have lost a lot of respect for Bernie Sanders because he has succumbed to "politics" and has abandoned some of the positions that he believes for the sake of political expediency. I liked him because he seemed like a genuine guy and was willing to stand up to his own party on issues even though he knew it would be unpopular. For instance, his stand on suing gun manufacturers. It didn't take long before political pressure got to him and he reversed course. Oh, and then he reversed back, and then reversed again. Today, his position on the issue remains unclear at best.
No he didn't. There has been NO action on that.
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Another example is how he once said that illegal immigration keeps wages low. He knew that importing uneducated, unskilled workers from other countries would have a detrimental effect on American workers, but has abandoned those principles as well. He's just another politician after all, willing to say whatever he thinks he needs to in order to get votes.
See the problem with your statement there? I underlined and italicized the two key words in your sentence...
All illegal immigrants, by definition, are criminals.
There's no such thing.....
He is being realistic.......it will take decades to get everyone through the courts. It will costs billions on top of that. Our laws or the Constitution does not allow us to just throw people out.
I have lost a lot of respect for Bernie Sanders because he has succumbed to "politics" and has abandoned some of the positions that he believes for the sake of political expediency. I liked him because he seemed like a genuine guy and was willing to stand up to his own party on issues even though he knew it would be unpopular. For instance, his stand on suing gun manufacturers. It didn't take long before political pressure got to him and he reversed course. Oh, and then he reversed back, and then reversed again. Today, his position on the issue remains unclear at best.
Another example is how he once said that illegal immigration keeps wages low. He knew that importing uneducated, unskilled workers from other countries would have a detrimental effect on American workers, but has abandoned those principles as well. He's just another politician after all, willing to say whatever he thinks he needs to in order to get votes.
See the problem with your statement there? I underlined and italicized the two key words in your sentence...
All illegal immigrants, by definition, are criminals.
There's no such thing.....
I was going to post something similar to what you wrote.
There is no such thing as a non-criminal illegal alien, in fact the term is an oxymoron. After they sneak across the border or overstay a visa, they go on to commit other crimes such as ID theft, tax evasion and driving without a license, to name a few.
Bernie is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He claims that he will add more jobs at the same time he says he will amnesty all the illegals. How many of those jobs he will supposedly add end up going to the newly amnestied instead of American citizens.
He is being realistic.......it will take decades to get everyone through the courts. It will costs billions on top of that. Our laws or the Constitution does not allow us to just throw people out.
We can and do "throw out people". It's called "deportation".
If it costs billions, then it is money well spent. On an annual basis, illegals cost us billions of dollars as they are parasites who take far, far more than they give. With that in mind, a one time cost for the wall and deportation will be far cheaper than allowing them to stay.
We can and do "throw out people". It's called "deportation".
After a legal hearing to determine their status.....do you realize how much time and what the cost will be for millions of people?
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If it costs billions, then it is money well spent. On an annual basis, illegals cost us billions of dollars as they are parasites who take far, far more than they give. With that in mind, a one time cost for the wall and deportation will be far cheaper than allowing them to stay.
It will take decades. (If you can even find them) Nothing else will get through the courts.
After a legal hearing to determine their status.....do you realize how much time and what the cost will be for millions of people?
It will take decades. (If you can even find them) Nothing else will get through the courts.
No need to go through all that. Make life so tough for illegals that they will leave on their own. Make E-verify the law of the land, then run everybody in the workforce through it to weed out those 8 million no-match SSNs. Once and for all, close that loophole that says it's okay if someone uses your SSN as long as they don't use your name with it. Do away with the whole anchor baby/birth tourism fiasco. Secure the border. If illegals can't find jobs or tap into welfare programs courtesy of an anchor baby, then they will leave. When AZ got tough on illegals, they left the state in droves. Would you stay someplace if you couldn't find a job or access any welfare benefits?
No need to go through all that. Make life so tough for illegals that they will leave on their own. Make E-verify the law of the land, then run everybody in the workforce through it to weed out those 8 million no-match SSNs. Once and for all, close that loophole that says it's okay if someone uses your SSN as long as they don't use your name with it. Do away with the whole anchor baby/birth tourism fiasco. Secure the border. If illegals can't find jobs or tap into welfare programs courtesy of an anchor baby, then they will leave. When AZ got tough on illegals, they left the state in droves. Would you stay someplace if you couldn't find a job or access any welfare benefits?
Don't deport them...don't support them. Then they'll go away on their own. OR...
They will insist on staying here and commit crimes against U.S. citizens and steal to survive. Justification to be shot, in some people's opinion....and I know a LOT who would be all for that...as DH says, they'd look on it as "target practice".
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No need to go through all that. Make life so tough for illegals that they will leave on their own. Make E-verify the law of the land, then run everybody in the workforce through it to weed out those 8 million no-match SSNs. Once and for all, close that loophole that says it's okay if someone uses your SSN as long as they don't use your name with it. Do away with the whole anchor baby/birth tourism fiasco. Secure the border. If illegals can't find jobs or tap into welfare programs courtesy of an anchor baby, then they will leave. When AZ got tough on illegals, they left the state in droves. Would you stay someplace if you couldn't find a job or access any welfare benefits?
There are plenty willing to hire people here illegally. That said I'm good with fining a business out of business that does that. Yes, some will leave.
The entire being born here thing will be very, very hard to change. Yes, it doesn't mean the parents can stay but then you are only delaying it. Send a million parents back with 4 million kids, those kids can then just walk in when they turn 18.
Doesn't it fit right in with a nation where many believe the daily activities of the Kardashians are relevant?
Well, could be Trump simply found another easy target of people to take advantage of, so like any Carnival Barker, he did ..
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