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Originally Posted by Ringo1
Honestly, Baystater - no one on CD has that much power. It's what ~ the same 30 or 40 people posting in here. Are we really impacting turnout? I could see if we had a much larger audience.
1. I'm doing out of principle. I hold my own side of the isle to a higher standard than the right. What I've see here is a the political "conversation" devolve into nothing more than a name calling contest. Granted both Bernie and Hillary supporters. I fully admit that. But at this point Hillary has the political high ground. Attacking anyone else on the left looks extremely petty. Especially attack against stein. Who unless all the other canidates suddenly drop dead has no chance to beat Hillary. Bernie at this point is just being Bernie cantankerous. Yeah he's being a PIA. But just let him have his say at the convention and that will be the end of it. He'll endorse Hillary and the election (from my pov) is pretty much over. But I'll tell you what if we go through the democratic convention kabuki dance and Bernie doesn't endorse her.....you guys get free reign to rip on him all day long. I will not interfere in anyway if that happens.
2. The same people who post here most likely post at other multimedia sites. So the general "vibe" they bring here is poisoning other sites as well. And it just creates a bigger sphere or putrefied politics. And I'm just tired of the smell of everywhere I go. Especially when there no really need of it within the left at this time.
3. Remember for every poster there's a lot of lurkers. I for whatever reason have been getting tons of rep points for expressing my contempt for attacking the negativity of some posts from some posters. So obviously I'm expressing a larger group with similar thoughts on this matter.
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And no one is convincing anyone to do anything - on either side. In fact, the more we post at all, no matter which side you are on, we only push people further into their ideological corners.
Yes and No. Yes I think the lines are drawn for the most part. Despite what a lot of people say there very few undecided voters out there. With that said. I think there's wiggle with how many folk will actually sit home and not vote at all and those that will be aggravated enough to vote third party out of spite. (By the way I don't condone that type of voting). Remember as I said earlier here the same people that post here most likely post other place. And that poisonous environment in cyberspace can and somewhat will transfer over to the real world. Now is spite going to translate over to effecting this general election in a big way....no. But It will probably strengthen the third parties (on the left the Green Party). And I think down the line create issues for Hillary in 4 years. Hillary most likely won't have another Supreme Court pick in her back pocket at that time. And unless she does something amazing while in office, or the republican put up another trump type. It's not going to be all that easy for her win. And despite what people may think, the hard feelings that are created now will still be carried over to the next presidential cycle. So I think the supporters of Hillary should tread lightly when dealing with their disgruntled size of the isle.
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I have learned things on CD though - things I might not have thought of otherwise.
Agreed.
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But ~ as my college-age son said yesterday - if Hillary kicked a puppy she would still have his vote because he HATES Donald Trump. And that is his perspective.
Ringo. After reading many of your post here, I'm willing to give you higher marks on your political mentoring of your son than you are giving yourself here. I would be very sad if he was only voting "against" trump (which to me is a terrible reason to vote) and had no reason at all to vote for Hillary. Something tells me your influence has at least taught him the importance of the the Supreme Court. So methinks he's not just voting against trump in reality. Granted I understand the extra "emotional" motivation both Candidates are bring to table this election cycle.
I'm doing out of principle. I hold my own side of the isle to a higher standard than the right. What I've see here is a the political "conversation" devolve into nothing more than a name calling contest. Granted both Bernie and Hillary supporters. I fully admit that. But at this point Hillary has the political high ground. Attacking anyone else on the left looks extremely petty.
So Trump, Sanders, Johnson, and Stein supporters get passes on expressing their opinions (aka "name-calling") about other candidates and quasi-candidates while Hillary supporters should abstain because some tender undecided C-D lurking voter might take offense? IOW, you believe only HRC supporters should be held to a different standard.
Got it. Not saying I agree but I understand that's your opinion.
My opinion is Bernie Sanders will go down in history as the sore loser archetype, and that is his fault. No one else's. That will be his legacy.
He every day continues to dig that hole deeper and deeper, which imo makes it a topic worth discussing on this thread.
If expressing that opinion somehow causes lurkers to vote against HRC , that's a risk I'm willing to take.
The summation was that Hillary was getting off, but that this would apply to just her and someone else doing it can't expect the same results. Also, gross incompetence in sending the classified emails, you know the ones she never sent.
Between the perjury and the gross incompetence, Bernie Sanders hang in there!
Let's face it, Sanders is a wise and intelligent man who knows the system, so he knew that she couldn't clear the fence without a snag. The snag has been identified.
Seriously, Democrats, Bernie has always been your best bet. Grow a spine and let the DNC know that you want someone that is honest and trustworthy. I bet Bernie has a smile on his face this evening.
Last edited by AnywhereElse; 07-05-2016 at 04:02 PM..
The summation was that Hillary was getting off, but that this would apply to just her and someone else doing it can't expect the same results. Also, gross incompetence in sending the classified emails, you know the ones she never sent.
Between the perjury and the incompetence, Bernie Sanders hang in there!
Let's face it, Sanders is a wise and intelligent man who knows the system, so he knew that she couldn't clear the fence without a snag. The snag has been identified.
Seriously, Democrats, Bernie has always been your best bet. Grow a spine and let the DNC know that you want someone that is honest and trustworthy. I bet Bernie has a smile on his face this evening.
Um yeah, like YOU have the Democrats "best interests" at heart.
Sorry, ain't gonna happen. Hillary will be the nominee AND the next president.
Um yeah, like YOU have the Democrats "best interests" at heart.
Sorry, ain't gonna happen. Hillary will be the nominee AND the next president.
Ken
True, my heart is with our country, not with a party or a gender. Bernie is the better candidate and deserves the nomination. If the Democratic Party has a shred of decency, Bernie will be the nominee.
True, my heart is with our country, not with a party or a gender. Bernie is the better candidate and deserves the nomination. If the Democratic Party has a shred of decency, Bernie will be the nominee.
Utter nonsense.
Folks like you are just hoping that Bernie will get the nomination so that you can use the "socialist" label against him.
Sorry, but that ISN'T gonna happen.
Hillary will be the nominee AND our next president.
Bernie does not want to give up his feel good benefit of Secret Service protection. Taxpayers continue to fund this because he has yet to concede. The guy is narcissistic.
Um yeah, like YOU have the Democrats "best interests" at heart.
Sorry, ain't gonna happen. Hillary will be the nominee AND the next president.
Ken
The idea isn't to have the "Democrats" best interests at heart. It's to have the countries best interest at heart. You unwittingly summed up with entire problem in one short post.
Bernie does not want to give up his feel good benefit of Secret Service protection. Taxpayers continue to fund this because he has yet to concede. The guy is narcissistic.
Sanders is beyond sad! He cares nothing about taxpayers dollars.
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Not saying I agree but I understand that's your opinion.
