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Old 06-25-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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In my opinion, Bernie's endorsement of Hillary shows he is really not against the establishment.
What he's against is Trump. A 3rd party run would be likely be viewed as helping Trump and if he did that, he could kiss any chance of being on a Senate committee good-by.

As of Thursday night, he had not endorsed Hillary. Has that changed?

 
Old 06-25-2016, 01:19 PM
 
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Yes, whatever. That is what is wrong with this country. Even her supporters know that she lies about everything, but whatever.
Really now? Several news sources have pointed out that her statements are more truthful than the other candidates running and reporters who have investigated her have come to the conclusion that she is honest and trustworthy.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-jill-abramson


By any chance, are you merely repeating things you've heard on RWN radio?
 
Old 06-25-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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What he's against is Trump. A 3rd party run would be likely be viewed as helping Trump and if he did that, he could kiss any chance of being on a Senate committee good-by.

As of Thursday night, he had not endorsed Hillary. Has that changed?
If Bernie ran third Party, he wouldn't need to be on any Senate Committee-he'd be the President.

(Not saying I think he would-just what would happen, Trump/Clinton are the least liked/trusted candidates in history while Bernie is the opposite)
 
Old 06-25-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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If Bernie ran third Party, he wouldn't need to be on any Senate Committee-he'd be the President.

(Not saying I think he would-just what would happen, Trump/Clinton are the least liked/trusted candidates in history while Bernie is the opposite)
Why would you make this assumption when he was beaten by millions of votes in the primary? That's not a particularly good track record to say he would automatically beat Hillary given that he couldn't beat her in the first place. Yes, he might draw some Republican votes, but it's clear that Hillary is already doing that, what with all of the recent high profile Republican endorsements she's gotten recently.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 06:29 PM
 
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I wouldn't say that, but of course, the media will play that as a headline because like others have said...the mainstream media is in the business of dictating public opinion rather than reporting it and the media is clearly in favor of Hillary.

Either way, this was one divisive debate between the two of them, and I think there were certain things that can't be taken back between Bernie and Hillary.

Essentially if Bernie is willing to support Hillary, he's saying that he supports Wall Street....because he declared that Wall St's interest are what Hillary is representing and that she can't be trusted.

He ran his entire campaign on this idea.

It's one thing to be against Trump, but to support Hillary in lieu of that is defying his own integrity IMO.


I think some of his supporters while not seeing this as a reason to vote for Hillary, will elect to stay home rather to vote in her favor. If Trump is smart he'll use Bernie's arguments verbatim to exploit that.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 06:29 PM
 
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He endorsed the next president of the U S of A...
Only in your mind.

Defecting Democrats, Trump and bitterness: Why Jill Stein just might turn November upside down

We’re in something of a lull in the news cycle now, with primaries over and the convention a month away. The presumed nominees are working hard with their PR teams to decide where they want the narrative to take us next. But there’s an unauthorized narrative that is quickly taking shape online: rumblings of defection from the Democratic Party, a surge in registration for the Green Party, and a serious bid come November by Green Party nominee Jill Stein. Is it true? Why not? Haven’t we already thrown the playbook out the window this year? Typically, the prospect that a left-leaning independent or third-party bid will spoil the chances of the Democratic Party is enough to unify Democrats behind their nominee in a general election. But this year is special.

For starters, it is special because Hillary Clinton is such a divisive figure within her own party, as much for the way she plays politics as the conservative policies that define her career, not to mention the scandals and cover-ups that continue to dog her campaign. As the joke goes, her platform may match Bernie Sanders’s on 95% of the issues, but her record matches Trump’s platform on 95% of the issues, and her issues match Richard Nixon on 95% of the record. Perhaps that is why Richard Armitage and others from the right are breaking ranks to endorse her. Win or fail – or win and then fail – Clinton offers a no-lose situation for neocons.

Defecting Democrats, Trump and bitterness: Why Jill Stein just might turn November upside down - Salon.com

People crow about a Richard Armitage supporting Hillary but don't realize that it actually harms her with those she must convinve to vote for her.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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They are here because we raised them. Sandy Hook, Orlando... many terrorists live right here in the U.S. so where would we kick them out to?
I covered that. On top of that Adam Lanza failed a background check. He was not allowed to buy a gun. He got them anyway, didn't he?

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As to secret lists, this would bring it all out in the open. If they are on the no-fly list and don't belong there, this would be a good time to time to clear it up.
Guilty until you prove yourself innocent is the exact opposite of everything this country stands for.

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How about someone who was recently released from a psychiatric facility? Should they be allowed to buy semi-automatic weapons without a background check?
We are NOT discussing back ground checks. Stay on topic.

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How about felons who have used guns to kill others? Should they be allowed to waltz in a buy high powered weapon or even pistols?

Maybe they could get someone else to do it, but right now they can do it all by themselves.
While off topic, no many of them can not. Through due process they have had the right to own a gun removed from them. I will repeat, through due process.

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Afghan fighters are a whole lot tougher than the Bundy crowd of tough guys. In every sense of the word, Afghans are actual militias not a bunch of bull****ters waving guns around and talking tough. Plus, they have weapons with more fire power than semi-automatic rifles.

Surely, you are not suggesting that the 2nd Amendment covers shoulder-fired missiles and so forth. Are you?
I believe it does.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 06:36 PM
 
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Really now? Several news sources have pointed out that her statements are more truthful than the other candidates running and reporters who have investigated her have come to the conclusion that she is honest and trustworthy.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-jill-abramson


By any chance, are you merely repeating things you've heard on RWN radio?
I covered this already.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 07:08 PM
 
Location: az
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Bernie Sanders Won’t Endorse Hillary Clinton for Now
Bernie Sanders Won
 
Old 06-26-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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We are NOT discussing back ground checks. Stay on topic.
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Gun control is part of the discussion of whether Bernie is or is not part of the establishment due to his support of the gun lobby's opposition to gun control which includes background checks for all gun purchases.

Here's an article you may want to glance over.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...guns.html?_r=0

The Adam Lanza reference was about how he was born and raised right here so the comment on sending him and other such terrorists back to where they came from makes no sense.

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