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Old 06-24-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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That's not what the polls are saying. Whatever the combination of those 4 folks you use, Hillary always comes out on top.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Ken
That doesn't disprove what I was saying though just because Hillary still wins. I said many would vote for her.

But honestly it's still surreal that Trump can possibly win-I just wish we had a more energizing/popular DNC nominee.

 
Old 06-24-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That doesn't disprove what I was saying though just because Hillary still wins. I said many would vote for her.

But honestly it's still surreal that Trump can possibly win-I just wish we had a more energizing/popular DNC nominee.
I agree with you. I'm not happy with Clinton's baggage and I'm downright angry with her about her whole e-mail controversy. She knows she's the object of attack from the GOP and should have known that they would latch on to ANYTHING that didn't look right about that server so she should have followed the rules scrupulously. Having said that - though I really like Sanders, he wouldn't have a chance in h*ll of getting any of his ideas through Congress, and I'm sure as h*ll not voting for the GOP or the Libertarians. The upshot of all this is I'll be voting for Hillary - and I'm pretty darned confident she'll win - possibly really big.

Ken
 
Old 06-24-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That doesn't disprove what I was saying though just because Hillary still wins. I said many would vote for her.

But honestly it's still surreal that Trump can possibly win-I just wish we had a more energizing/popular DNC nominee.

It may be surreal but it's also a fact. Just look at Britain today ~ everyone got it wrong.

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I agree with you. I'm not happy with Clinton's baggage and I'm downright angry with her about her whole e-mail controversy. She knows she's the object of attack from the GOP and should have known that they would latch on to ANYTHING that didn't look right about that server so she should have followed the rules scrupulously. Having said that - though I really like Sanders, he wouldn't have a chance in h*ll of getting any of his ideas through Congress, and I'm sure as h*ll not voting for the GOP or the Libertarians. The upshot of all this is I'll be voting for Hillary - and I'm pretty darned confident she'll win - possibly really big.

Ken
I can't argue with any of that - and I'll throw in her Wall Street speeches. IF she had any inkling (and I think she did) that she was going to run - then those speeches were also going to cause her trouble and she had to know that.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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It may be surreal but it's also a fact. Just look at Britain today ~ everyone got it wrong.



I can't argue with any of that - and I'll throw in her Wall Street speeches. IF she had any inkling (and I think she did) that she was going to run - then those speeches were also going to cause her trouble and she had to know that.
I don't care about the speeches. They are just speeches. Pretty much everyone in politics makes big money giving speeches to all kinds of groups. That's her right and it says nothing about whether or not she's beholden to Wall St or anyone else.

Ken
 
Old 06-24-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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The hall had a capacity of 1,500 people. 1250 showed up. Not sure I would describe this as "packed" but even if you do, that is still a pretty fair indication that his crowds are dwindling.

He gave it a good run. Be great to live in the nation he envisions. It's too darn bad he hasn't been more successful in making headway over the last several decades.

If he's just getting started, he better ramp it up. He's no spring chicken and C-D supporters notwithstanding, his support is thinning.


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Bernie Sanders says he's not ready to endorse Hillary Clinton
1250 is more than Hillary drew anywhere.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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1250 is more than Hillary drew anywhere.
Wrong!

Her recent Roosevelt Island Speech drew 5,500

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/us...eech.html?_r=0

Ken
 
Old 06-24-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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Wrong!

Her recent Roosevelt Island Speech drew 5,500

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/us...eech.html?_r=0

Ken
she said before a crowd estimated at 5,500, according to the campaign.

Her campaign isn't known for it's truthfulness.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Wrong!

Her recent Roosevelt Island Speech drew 5,500

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/us...eech.html?_r=0

Ken
And on to another accusation.

Hillary's going to be indicted for using her own email server!

Hillary's going to be indicted for Benghazi!

Hillary's going be indicted over Whitewater, Vince Foster's suicide... !

Hillary's not a Christian!

Hillary's a lesbian!

On and on. The list seems endless. And pointless.

She is attacked for earning money giving speeches and for sticking by her husband and holding her family together. Now really.

Major fact finding organizations published that she is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents. But that doesn't slow this group down. When one lie is proven false, they pop up with another. Like playing whack-a-mole with lunatics.

The frightening part is that if this campaign of lies works, we will elect a man who couldn't make money running a casino. Three of them went bankrupt, leaving all sorts of people holding the bag. Who can't make money running a casino for heaven sakes? It's practically a license to print money. And this guy would be in charge of the nation's business? Yikes!

Think what you're doing here folks.

Bernie may be a god who walks among, but he's toast. Time to get serious about our nation's future.

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Old 06-24-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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she said before a crowd estimated at 5,500, according to the campaign.

Her campaign isn't known for it's truthfulness.
Whatever the number it's a LOT more than 1,500.
5,500 looks about right.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/2434...CAMPAIGN.1.jpg

I'd guess a bit more truthful than you want to admit.


Ken
 
Old 06-24-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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she said before a crowd estimated at 5,500, according to the campaign.

Her campaign isn't known for it's truthfulness.
You're accusing others of not being truthful?

Oh, for crying out loud.
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