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Old 08-09-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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NBC/Survey Monkey:


General Election Clinton 44, Trump 38, Johnson 10, Stein 4

Just head to head it's Clinton 51, Trump 41. That's the 4th poll with her over 50 percent as well.

 
Old 08-09-2016, 06:37 AM
 
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Okay, I think I got it. Thanks.
~amanda
The Nowcast has no mechanism to account for convention bumps, so it is extremely volatile.
The least likely to alter is Polls Plus, which includes voting history, demography and economic data.
Polls Only is in between; more volatile than Polls Plus, because it's solely based on polls, but not succeptable to the extremes of Nowcast.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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no its not......South Carolina is more Republican than Georgia but both states are red from top to bottom and PRO 2nd amendment.


South Carolina: Republican Governor Republican House 78-46 Republican Senate: 28-17....2 U.S. Senators Republicans and 6 U.S. Congressmen to 1 Democrat.


Georgia: Republican Governor Republican House 119-60 Republican Senate: 39-19.....2 U.S. Senators Republicans 10 Republicans to 4 Democrats Congressmen.



So Hillary is going to go to Georgia and South Carolina, 2 very red states and win there with a liberal platform of higher taxes, more government, more Obamacare, for gun control and abortions on demand platform????


BHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! ......you guys really believe 1 silly poll?????? might as well believe Hillary will take Alabama too, is next to Georgia.....LMAO!!!!


Silly liberals
You do realize that the people running these sites do this for a living and just might know more about the subject than you do? It's not only silly poll either. 3 in a row have her leading in Georgia and the other few before that had it at a tie. Doesn't mean she will win but it's not a great sign he is bleeding support there at all. None of those factors matter either. The South votes for the GOP based on the perceived lack of care that the Democrats have for them. They have no issue with sensible gun restrictions, abortion, and social programs. The problem is that the Democrats have increasingly only given social programs to special interests groups and ignored their core block of support from the past. Hence why they go Republican. You might want to rethink your Obamacare thoughts too. Because when it has opened in southern states such as Kentucky and Louisiana it has been wildly popular. People mistake the National platform of the GOP as why the GOP wins in the south. They win there because people are tired of how the Democrats treat them and not because they like their policies.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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Obama lost Georgia in 2012 by 8% and South Carolina by 10% to a Mormon....the South doesn't like Mormons....but Hillary is going to take Georgia in 2016 with her liberal platform????? LMAO!!!

Stop it, bhaaa!....they hate Hillary in the South and her goofy V.P pick.......just on her higher taxes and anti 2nd amendment platform, Hillary has no shot in the south.
I remember them saying the same thing about NC, IN, and VA in 2008 as well. We all know how accurate that was. Never assume a state is unflippable. Under the right circumstances even strongholds can flip.

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Old 08-09-2016, 07:21 AM
 
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you still have 3 debates and 3 months to go......don't count victory so early, it will be funny if Hillary loses with all her super pac money, the media and establishment republicans helping her....that would be funny!
The debates almost never matter. That's the biggest political myth out there that is still spun. The only times that they do is when the election is very close. Even then the person ahead before the debates still wins. Things tightened up in 2000 but that was during the election itself. Ralph Naders support bled a few percentages points and it went to Gore. The other myth is that Reagan was trailing most of the year in 1980 and the debates suddenly changes that. It's true in the Gallup polling for the year had Carter ahead. However the average of the polls at the time had him trailing from Early June on.


At this point, as I have pointed out before, it's too early to be popping champagne. If this is the same on September 1st then there is cause for worry in the Trump camp. Until then it's speculation on how things might turn out.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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I use the RCP average:

Clinton 47.6, Trump 40.1

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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I use the RCP average:

Clinton 47.6, Trump 40.1

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Yes, that's the best course of action. Whether or not they stay like that is up for debate. The real question is just how long can Trump stay on message? He seems to be okay for periods of a week or so and then goes back to Trump Classic. He was already on tv today stating skepticism on why he needs to change when he is ahead in the polls.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:50 AM
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no its not......South Carolina is more Republican than Georgia but both states are red from top to bottom and PRO 2nd amendment.

South Carolina: Republican Governor Republican House 78-46 Republican Senate: 28-17....2 U.S. Senators Republicans and 6 U.S. Congressmen to 1 Democrat.

Georgia: Republican Governor Republican House 119-60 Republican Senate: 39-19.....2 U.S. Senators Republicans 10 Republicans to 4 Democrats Congressmen.

So Hillary is going to go to Georgia and South Carolina, 2 very red states and win there with a liberal platform of higher taxes, more government, more Obamacare, for gun control and abortions on demand platform????

BHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! ......you guys really believe 1 silly poll?????? might as well believe Hillary will take Alabama too, is next to Georgia.....LMAO!!!!

Silly liberals
House and Senate Districts are gerrymandered, so geography plays a role in the political make up of the states.

Ill use your own example.

Georgia's Congressional delegation is 71% Republican
State senate is 67% Republican
State House is 66%

But Nathan Deal only got 53% of the vote in the Governor's race.

David Perdue only got 53% of the vote in the Senate race

Congressional republicans got 58% ( there were many races where Republicans and Dems ran unopposed)

You seem to be misguidedly (and knowingly, but maybe unintendedly) arguing that A Republican winning a seat means no one voted against them.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:59 AM
 
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PPP:

North Carolina Clinton 43, Trump 41, Johnson 7, Stein 2:
 
Old 08-09-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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no its not......South Carolina is more Republican than Georgia but both states are red from top to bottom and PRO 2nd amendment.


South Carolina: Republican Governor Republican House 78-46 Republican Senate: 28-17....2 U.S. Senators Republicans and 6 U.S. Congressmen to 1 Democrat.


Georgia: Republican Governor Republican House 119-60 Republican Senate: 39-19.....2 U.S. Senators Republicans 10 Republicans to 4 Democrats Congressmen.



So Hillary is going to go to Georgia and South Carolina, 2 very red states and win there with a liberal platform of higher taxes, more government, more Obamacare, for gun control and abortions on demand platform????


BHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! ......you guys really believe 1 silly poll?????? might as well believe Hillary will take Alabama too, is next to Georgia.....LMAO!!!!


Silly liberals
It's not one silly poll. It is numerous ones, and a trend line has developed. Trump is viewed as that incompetent. And that scary. BFF with Putin? Doesn't know what the nuclear triad is? Doesn't know that Russia invaded Ukraine? Give me a break.
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