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View Poll Results: Did Hillary Clinton have anything to do with Stein's Fund for Recount? Multiple Choice Poll
Sure. "and" She secretly donated to the fund 54 31.40%
Sure she did. Still being Crooked-Hillary 81 47.09%
No Way! 24 13.95%
The Russians had something to do with it. 2 1.16%
The election was hacked for sure, right? 4 2.33%
The Donaters to Stein's fund are about to get ripped off $$$$ Burned! 39 22.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 172. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-24-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Ok, now you're either being a troll or just plain stupid.
Read his other posts and the answer will be as obvious as Trump winning the election.

 
Old 11-24-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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Certification scheduled for Monday.
 
Old 11-24-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
Republicans tried to make Pennsylvania's Electoral College proportional and the Democrats screamed bloody murder.

Too bad, huh?

I bet you are clamoring to make New York, Illinois, and California proportional - Trump would have won a proportional system.

He would have lost a proportional EC. However it would have been thrown the the House because Hillary would have gotten 260 EC votes. Trump would have had around 240 EC votes.
 
Old 11-24-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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How the hell is it fair that trump gets all the EV just because he won by 0.3%??? Wtf!!!!!

Electoral votes should be evenly split between them, each gets 8!!! Same with Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia and Arizona!
oh boo fricking hoo, no proportional EC votes in 48 states. once again i suggest you put your big boy pants on and deal with it. dont like winner take all? then work to change each state to a proportional distribution. that way you can cry when it either doesnt happen, or you can cry when it does and your candidate loses a proportional EC vote count.

daywalk=
 
Old 11-24-2016, 07:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by weaverra View Post
He would have lost a proportional EC. However it would have been thrown the the House because Hillary would have gotten 260 EC votes. Trump would have had around 240 EC votes.
The proportional plan is based on:

1) 1 Electoral College Vote per Congressional District

2) 2 Electoral College Votes per State popular vote.


Trump wins the proportional in a landslide.
 
Old 11-24-2016, 07:53 PM
 
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YOU quoted Hillary Clinton.....and HILLARY isn't contesting the election.
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Stein said she ran it by Hillary... (recount) but Hillary showed no interest....
yeah, not buying it. hillary probably told stein that she wont directly call for a recount since she conceded already, but since stein has nothing to lose, she can make the call, just keep hillary out of it.
 
Old 11-24-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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What evidence would that be? Please provide it.

There was, in fact, a Trump voter arrested for trying to vote twice though.

Computer science shows signs of hacking, even if Trump cult does not believe in science. This isn't going away. Perhaps people would be be as suspicious if Putin and Assange had not conspired to influence the election illegally. We let Bush get away with it in 2000 and ended up with a disaster.

And if Trump voters think he won fair and square, why would they care if there is a recount?

#audit the vote

"...believe they have found evidence that in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, the results may have been manipulated or hacked. For example, in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that used electronic voting machines compared to counties that utilized paper ballots and optical scanners. Clinton lost the state by 27,000 votes, but based on this statistical analysis, as many as 30,000 votes may not have been tallied for Clinton, Sherman wrote..."

Computer science experts recommend Hillary Clinton challenge election results in 3 swing states

Computer science shows no signs of hacking. Prof. Halderman, the man behind the initial call for recount, said it himself. He was questioning the statistical distribution of voting results (which can be easily explained by demographics).

“Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack?” J. Alex Halderman, a computer science professor at the University of Michigan who has studied the vulnerabilities of election systems at length, wrote on Medium on Wednesday as the calls based on his conclusions mounted. “Probably not.”:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us...rump.html?_r=0

However there was indeed a lot of "irregularities" with votes inevitably going to Hillary. Nobody got arrested for fraud despite of this - for whatever reason.

Here's votes for Trump "miraculously" switching to Hillary. "Miscalibration" is blamed, although it's a strange kind of one-sided miscalibration. At least three states affected.

Pittsburgh

Some Trump Voters Reporting Ballots Switching To Clinton « CBS Pittsburgh

Texas

Trump, Gov. Abbott weigh in on claims that Texas*machines changed Trump votes to Clinton | 2016 Presidential Election | Dallas News

https://youtu.be/mzxzT6M_tL8

Maryland

MARYLAND TRUMP SUPPORTER: THEY SWITCHED MY VOTE TO HILLARY – Universe Politics

A KY man jailed for impersonating an election official to commit voter fraud. A Democrat.

Grand jury indicts Pike County man on election fraud

Voter fraud in the Presidential Preferential Primary in OK

3 under investigation for voter fraud - KSWO, Lawton, OK- Wichita Falls, TX: News, Weather, Sports. ABC, 24/7, Telemundo -

Multiple dead people voting in Colorado

CBS4 Investigation Finds Dead Voters Casting Ballots In Colorado « CBS Denver

As I said - you want a recount, let's have a nationwide audit of ALL votes. With proof of citizenship, right to vote, and verification of whom the voter cast the vote for. Let's get a true picture of voter fraud across the nation. How many votes switched, how many dead people voting, how many illegals or felons voting, how many people voting in the wrong precinct, how many people voting multiple times. Per state, county, party. And create a Federal Voter ID law so that no dead bodies could ever vote for another candidate from either party again. Let's go.

You don't get to pick the results in a few states you don't like while leaving Hillary's mess hidden out of sight. Let's clean all stables. I am dying to see the big picture here. You want a recount - let's do an independent, non-partisan, monitored nationwide voter audit. Would cost far less than the wars in Libya and Syria, and unlike them, it would actually benefit us in the end.

Or, just accept the results of election, as the other side would despite the biggest fraud of all - the mass media shamelessly and unethically teaming up with Hillary against Trump. Stop pathetically grasping at the straws trying to overturn the results of a free democratic election that your candidate so spectacularly lost. You may not like the result if you do manage to push this through.

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Old 11-24-2016, 08:16 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Hillary should have won and totally deserved to win! She was robbbed that's all I can say ! :'(
I will wager ANY amount of $$ that is not even close to all you can say!!!

But please, continue. Your tears and anguish are soooo entertaining.
 
Old 11-24-2016, 08:30 PM
 
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It just gets funnier, Wisconsin does audit its election results already. Jill can waste all the money she wants but its not about trying to " ...create a voting system that we can believe in”. Jill is either pocketing a fair bit or is a Clinton surrogate. Given the silence from Clinton on this, I can only guess that she's on board.

Jill Stein campaign confirms it will seek a recount of votes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan | Politics and Elections | host.madison.com
 
Old 11-24-2016, 08:30 PM
 
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It's time to change the electoral college! Smart ones will rise up and fight against the corrupted and inept system of electoral college
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