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View Poll Results: Did Hillary Clinton have anything to do with Stein's Fund for Recount? Multiple Choice Poll
Sure. "and" She secretly donated to the fund 54 31.40%
Sure she did. Still being Crooked-Hillary 81 47.09%
No Way! 24 13.95%
The Russians had something to do with it. 2 1.16%
The election was hacked for sure, right? 4 2.33%
The Donaters to Stein's fund are about to get ripped off $$$$ Burned! 39 22.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 172. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-28-2016, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Delaware Native
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Originally Posted by gsoboi78 View Post
Looks like to me Hilliary leads with a majority 2 million votes and counting
Not to insult your intelligence but here are some fast facts for you, just to bring you up to speed. It's an easy read. So, the next time you find yourself in a conversation on this subject, you won't look, ah....(edited out)......ill prepared and uninformed.

Electoral College Fast Facts | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

 
Old 11-28-2016, 06:44 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Originally Posted by leftee View Post
For something as important as a national election, it astounds me that we don't have a voter ID card system already in place.
No card, no vote.
Wait. That's not fair to the voters that are now saving up for the cab fare to get their free ID for the next election four years from now!
 
Old 11-28-2016, 06:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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More bad news for the Hildabeast. I heard yesterday that Obama was the reason she conceded the election when she did to Donald Trump. Now comes news that the White House has just crushed her last hope of being president amid a scam of a recount by Jill Stein of the commie Green Party. The White House released a statement saying they see no credible evidence of the vote being hacked in Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania. The only thing to come out of this bogus move is millions of dollars for Jill Stein and her cronies. I’d almost feel sorry for Clinton if she wasn’t such a hellishly evil corruptocrat.


Obama doesn't want them to find all the corruption involved on the Democrat side of things.
This may prove Trump won bigger than they said and evaporate Hillary's Popular vote lead.
 
Old 11-28-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Default The Irony and Hypocrisy of the Recount

1.) First of all, it's bizarre that Hillary made a huge stink about Trump's refusal to unequivocally promise to accept the results of the election. She called it "terrifying" and "undemocratic" and so forth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOgntlW8rew

2.) After losing there were riots and tantrums by liberals. Hillary Clinton said nothing and did nothing, making it clear enough that she's willing to let others be her voice for the temper tantrum that she herself cannot bee seen to throw. Such blatant disrespect for the legitimate outcome is, by her own words, terrifying and undemocratic.

3.) Death threats against electors pledged to vote for Trump are continuing. Again, Hillary has not said a word against it.

4.) Hillary is now letting Jill Stein be her proxy for the current recount efforts -- this in spite of the fact that no evidence of foul play or tampering has been found. And yes, it has already been looked into. Jill Stein's stated intent for the recount is to "ensure the integrity of the vote." "Why would anyone not want to count to votes and to be sure that they are counted accurately." She goes on to say that there were "lots of hacks" and so forth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFwP_hSiLRA

5.) Jill only wants to recount states that Clinton lost by narrow margins -- because apparently only Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin could possibly be hacked or targeted or won fraudulently. States won by even smaller margins by Clinton are apparently beyond reproach.

6.) This is disappointing for many reasons. Stein just went from critic and opposition to Clinton to throwing herself on the altar on Hillary's behalf. Did Stein ever have any integrity at all? What kind of bizarre game is she playing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi6LJiW3W4

7.) And then suddenly Clinton jumps onboard, happily supporting Stein's recount efforts -- a recount that could only possibly benefit Clinton.

8.) Rather than calling her rabid dog packs of destructive followers to be calm, Hillary just poured gasoline on the fire.

9.) The recount must succeed in all three states for the outcome of the election to change. That means that Clinton's stooge Jill Stein needs to overcome:
  • A 27,257 vote deficit in Wisconsin.
  • A 68,236 vote deficit in Pennsylvania.
  • A 11,612 vote deficit in Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYTbeFY5Rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gfG5Xc8j0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfvZQUIA37U

10.) If successful, then Stein/Clinton would need to explain the astounding coincidence that they just happened to be able to dig up over 107,105 more votes for Clinton that just happened to be missed by those states -- states where there is currently no sign of any foul play.

11.) Donald Trump will have no choice but to demand investigations into the recounts (that many votes just magically appearing would be mighty shady to say the least) and requesting recounts in states that Hillary won.

12.) Clinton appears to be willing to toss our nation into a Constitutional Crisis that will take years to completely resolve -- this despite only the narrowest chance that she can succeed. She will have to cheat like there is no tomorrow to pull the needed three state sweep recount rabbit out of the hat, and let the consequences be damned.

I didn't care who won or who lost, but I'm astounded that Hillary would be so hypocritical.

Last edited by godofthunder9010; 11-28-2016 at 07:35 AM..
 
Old 11-28-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by seeriously View Post
The recount will probably result in screening our future candidates for mental stability. Trump has already done damage to democracy. We need to assure that something like this never happens again.
That would be great! Remember how confused Hillary was? Maybe we should add testing for drugs and alcohol abuse, yet another vice of Hillary. Definitely agree with you that Hillary, if tested for mental stability would have went down like a bag of wet cement! Trump damaging our democracy? You're joking right? Good one!

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Originally Posted by kevinm View Post
I would welcome President Trump sending teams of FBI to local elections to ensure poll workers are requiring ID in precincts where fraud is suspected.
My son and his troops were sent to ensure that a free election was being allowed in Afghanistan. What an embarrassment we have become as a country when we should be an example of how things should be done. Greed and selfishness has overcome our political system.

I think a recount will show that Hillary did not do as well as people might think. Anyone in their right mind saw this coming. It will also show which areas need to be watched for voter fraud in the future. I don't understand how the Dems feel that some sort of cyber attack made Hillary lose, she defeated herself and in MI, they aren't even "cyber".

We need photo voter ID in every state and a US wide system for detecting if someone has more than one ID, they do this with Driver's Licenses as we have moved around the US and when you show in another state to get a DL, they know what state you have one issued from.

We had to get a state ID for our adult son with developmental disabilities, there was simply no way for him to do anything and even though he is under a guardianship, he still had to be able to show that state issued ID time after time. Should I have cried "discrimination"? It was up to us to transport him and fill out papers, stand in line, answer questions................. I have looked at state's requirements and there is no reason for anyone, make that any US citizen, not to have access to a photo ID.
 
Old 11-28-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The opportunity for manipulating an election is far far greater for poll workers and elections officials than individuals conducting identity fraud. We already saw in Wisconsin where "human error" resulted in 5000 vapor votes for Trump in just two precincts. In a strict ID state nonetheless. How wide spread was that? Both the left and the right can be reassured by a recount and audit or by changes that will ensure the honesty of election officials.
 
Old 11-28-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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You would think the Democrats would avoid a recount at all costs because of their prominent illegal voter fraud. This is just a tactic to keep their base angry and riotous while discouraging Trump supporters.
 
Old 11-28-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
The opportunity for manipulating an election is far far greater for poll workers and elections officials than individuals conducting identity fraud. We already saw in Wisconsin where "human error" resulted in 5000 vapor votes for Trump in just two precincts. In a strict ID state nonetheless. How wide spread was that? Both the left and the right can be reassured by a recount and audit or by changes that will ensure the honesty of election officials.
Do you have concrete proof of that ?
 
Old 11-28-2016, 07:08 AM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
1.) First of all, it's bizarre that Hillary made a huge stink about Trump's refusal to unequivocally promise to accept the results of the election. She called it "terrifying" and "undemocratic" and so forth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOgntlW8rew

2.) After losing there were riots and tantrums by liberals. Hillary Clinton said nothing and did nothing, making it clear enough that she's willing to let others be her voice for the temper tantrum that she herself cannot bee seen to throw. Such blatant disrespect for the legitimate outcome is, by her own words, terrifying and undemocratic.

3.) Death threats against electors pledged to vote for Trump are continuing. Again, Hillary has not said a word against it.

4.) Hillary is now letting Jill Stein be her proxy for the current recount efforts -- this in spite of the fact that no evidence of foul play or tampering has been found. And yes, it has already been looked into. Jill Stein's stated intent for the recount is to "ensure the integrity of the vote." "Why would anyone not want to count to votes and to be sure that they are counted accurately." She goes on to say that there were "lots of hacks" and so forth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFwP_hSiLRA

5.) Jill only wants to recount states that Clinton lost by narrow margins -- because apparently only Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin could possibly be hacked or targeted or won fraudulently. States won by even smaller margins by Clinton are apparently beyond reproach.

6.) This is disappointing for many reasons. Stein just went from critic and opposition to Clinton to throwing herself on the altar on Hillary's behalf. Did Stein ever have any integrity at all? What kind of bizarre game is she playing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi6LJiW3W4

7.) And then suddenly Clinton jumps onboard, happily supporting Stein's recount efforts -- a recount that could only possibly benefit Clinton.

8.) Rather than calling her rabid dog packs of destructive followers to be calm, Hillary just poured gasoline on the fire.

9.) The recount must succeed in all three states for the outcome of the election to change. That means that Clinton's stooge Jill Stein needs to overcome:
  • A 27,257 vote deficit in Wisconsin.
  • A 68,236 vote deficit in Pennsylvania.
  • A 11,612 vote deficit in Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYTbeFY5Rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gfG5Xc8j0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfvZQUIA37U

10.) If successful, then Stein/Clinton would need to explain the astounding coincidence that they just happened to be able to dig up over 107,105 more votes for Clinton that just happened to be missed by those states -- states where there is currently no sign of any foul play -- then every other Donald Trump will have no choice but to demand investigations into the recounts (that many votes just magically appearing would be mighty shady to say the least) and requesting recounts in states that Hillary won.

11.) Clinton appears to be willing to toss our nation into a Constitutional Crisis that will take years to completely resolve -- this despite only the narrowest chance that she can succeed. She will have to cheat like there is no tomorrow to pull the needed three state sweep recount rabbit out of the hat, and let the consequences be damned.

I didn't care who won or who lost, but I'm astounded that Hillary would be so hypocritical.
Why are you astounded? Since you didn't care who won, you obviously are not a Hillary sycophant. Her history of lies and hypocrisy should have been pretty clear to anyone paying attention these last 10+ years.(Except for the Hillary apologists).

You seem to have a good picture of how the Dems and the far left operate. I can only assume that Trump turned you off as much as Clinton. It does show that for people who feel that, in any given election, both candidates are no good, there is still one who is the least objectionable choice. I imagine at this point, you may agree that the better candidate won.

In the end, Hillary and her supporters will still be big losers, and Donald Trump will still be putting his hand on a bible come Jan 20, 2017.
 
Old 11-28-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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You would think the Democrats would avoid a recount at all costs because of their prominent illegal voter fraud. This is just a tactic to keep their base angry and riotous while discouraging Trump supporters.
Trump told you this in a tweet so it must be true.
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