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The republican party died and was replaced by the party of Trump. Playboy bunny, porn star popping divider and chief Trump. Lying, cheating, dark NRA money, the family run white house criminal enterprise complete with Russian mafia and indictment after indictment and conviction after conviction party of Trump. Congress was feckless and oversight nonexistent until we the people gave Trump a wag with a great big blue middle finger. Will a feckless senate suffer the same fate in two years? I hope so. Lets kill that corrupt republican party and replace it with an honorable one. I used to be a republican but I do not recognize what the party has become. Sleazy, corrupt, dark and dishonest. No thank you.
Kind of amusing to see that statement when it was the Republicans who were spreading 24/7 fear about the immigrant caravan. It was as if, no matter what corner of America one was in, they could expect the immigrants to roll down their street at any minute, raping and pillaging.
really? LMAO!!! you want to compare that to the fears of the left comparing Trump to Hitler. The lies they produced on Kavanaugh and the rest of their lies and fears about Social Security and Medicare. The fears that we have a white supremacy crisis of violence in this country and the same with guns.
before that, it was all cops are racists and they are killing black people in large numbers and the war on women.......the list is long but obviously you become Stevie Wonder when it comes to the left and their fear mongering on every election.
The republican party died and was replaced by the party of Trump. Playboy bunny, porn star popping divider and chief Trump. Lying, cheating, dark NRA money, the family run white house criminal enterprise complete with Russian mafia and indictment after indictment and conviction after conviction party of Trump. Congress was feckless and oversight nonexistent until we the people gave Trump a wag with a great big blue middle finger. Will a feckless senate suffer the same fate in two years? I hope so. Lets kill that corrupt republican party and replace it with an honorable one. I used to be a republican but I do not recognize what the party has become. Sleazy, corrupt, dark and dishonest. No thank you.
well, you can join the party of Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary, Pelosi. I'm sure that party is for decency, honesty, and corruption free.
I'm sure the Republican party was great with W Bush, Mccain and Romney and the rest of the neo-cons globalists. I guess you want to return to the Bush neocon doctrine of open borders, outsourcing jobs to China, endless wars and endless occupations...I'm sure that was real honorable for you. Let me guess you voted for Hillary Clinton.
These so call RINOS coming up here pretending that the Republican Party were honorable and great before Trump. Everything was great under W BUSH. Let's lie to go to wars that we can't pay for, that'S GREAT!! the honorable thing to do. LMAO!!!
What I mean by the topic name is that it has now become abundantly clear to me that the Republican party’s central platform and campaign strategy is fear and resentment, and frankly it depresses me.
I’ve voted for republican candidates in the past, and as recently as 5 years ago...however, I’m not sure I ever will again. The fear, hatred and resentment that drives the party’s agenda and energizes it’s base is now in dangerous territory and it’s difficult for me to envision a way out of this hole.
It wasn’t always this way. I remember not too far back when the party had a positive message supported by conservative values and fiscal responsibility. That has been replaced with tribalism, nationalism and protectionism, fear-mongering, building walls, etc. etc. It’s gotten very dark.
Anyway, I’m wondering if anyone here agrees and also has a problem with the direction the party is heading.
fear and hate??? that is what the liberals (the louder far leftist faction of the democrats) have been spreading for 20+ years
look at all the fear mongering from the left...even here on CD... "if you vote republican they will push granny off the cliff (take away SS)"
the left has proven they don't care about citizens, the economy, good jobs, or the middleclass
well, you can join the party of Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary, Pelosi. I'm sure that party is for decency, honesty, and corruption free.
I'm sure the Republican party was great with W Bush, Mccain and Romney and the rest of the neo-cons globalists. I guess you want to return to the Bush neocon doctrine of open borders, outsourcing jobs to China, endless wars and endless occupations...I'm sure that was real honorable for you. Let me guess you voted for Hillary Clinton.
These so call RINOS coming up here pretending that the Republican Party were honorable and great before Trump. Everything was great under W BUSH. Let's lie to go to wars that we can't pay for, that'S GREAT!! the honorable thing to do. LMAO!!!
Definition of ass/u/me. Deflection seems to be the tool of choice when confronted with facts that you can not explain away. I think centrist best describes me. I do not believe that we should be the world's police in typical neo-con fashion, but I do believe we should support our allies, but this is off topic just like your deflection retort. When in doubt, spew uninformed attacks? Got it.
How about addressing the direction of the republican party, and for once, talk about the corruption like you might actually care about this country. If you can defend every lie, every shady deal, and not address the bad with the good , then you are brainwashed.
(Thank you all for the reps on my original post. It made my morning.)
Definition of ass/u/me. Deflection seems to be the tool of choice when confronted with facts that you can not explain away. I think centrist best describes me. I do not believe that we should be the world's police in typical neo-con fashion, but I do believe we should support our allies, but this is off topic just like your deflection retort. When in doubt, spew uninformed attacks? Got it.
How about addressing the direction of the republican party, and for once, talk about the corruption like you might actually care about this country. If you can defend every lie, every shady deal, and not address the bad with the good , then you are brainwashed.
(Thank you all for the reps on my original post. It made my morning.)
actually the one that is clueless and deflect about facts it's you. We have been the world's police for decades. That's why we have been in endless wars and endless occupations since WW 2. You think everything was good before Trump?
explain the direction of the Republican party under Trump? it has been away from the Bush doctrine on foreign policy and domestic...... and corruption? D.C. has always been corrupt and that's both parties or you are naive to think Pelosi and the Democrats are going to clean out the corruption.
who is the brainwashed? You are the one that voted Democrat. Pelosi and other corrupt people like Maxine Waters will be in charge of congress, the same people that were kicked out in 2010 for corruption and many things but you only want to talk about the Republican party? LOL
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Definition of ass/u/me. Deflection seems to be the tool of choice when confronted with facts that you can not explain away. I think centrist best describes me. I do not believe that we should be the world's police in typical neo-con fashion, but I do believe we should support our allies, but this is off topic just like your deflection retort. When in doubt, spew uninformed attacks? Got it.
How about addressing the direction of the republican party, and for once, talk about the corruption like you might actually care about this country. If you can defend every lie, every shady deal, and not address the bad with the good , then you are brainwashed.
(Thank you all for the reps on my original post. It made my morning.)
1. neo-cons are liberals..still a party of big government
world police... most of the conflicts we have been in, we have been asked to be in, or we caused to begin with (korea and Vietnam go back to FDR, who at Yalta idiotically chose to split the countries in half).. panama...we installed Noriega...
desert storm....Kuwait and the UN asked us to go in
Afghanistan...the ALQ who was hq'd in Afghanistan attacked us
I've got relatives in West Virginia coal country. The county went 80% for Trump in 2016 because he promised that the jobs would come back. Visited there last month. Jobs didn't come back but they are still supporting Trump and believing the jobs will return. ...
Their support for Trump remains strong, because he speaks their language. He continually needles and unsettles persons whom such WV counties regard as the antithesis of goodness and stability. Trump may or may not be effective as a leader, but he’s effective as a critic and polemicist, from the viewpoint of his supporters. Their support will continue, whether or not the stock market recovers, whether or not remunerative blue-collar jobs return, whether or not venerated traditions resume their primacy in modern life.
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3) I remember when improving foreign relations and expanding the free world was a top priority. Globalization and free trade were considered econmically efficient and the future. Now they are dirty words. Bring on the isolationism, trade wars and tariffs
To me, that's the main travesty with specifically Trumpian policies and a Trump-dominated Republican party. From Eisenhower to Reagan and even to Bush II, the Republican party was all about a Pax Americana, where American power is used to secure global commerce, global exchange of ideas, global flow of investment. Yes, there was some glaringly stupid interventions and needless, moronic wars... some of which were started by Republicans, some by Democrats, often in a Wilsonian claim of "making the world safe for democracy". But at least there was a belief that narrowly national interests are balanced against worldwide interests, and sometimes leadership means a tactical placing of others' interests before one's own. That regard for tactics has been lost.
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What's wrong in putting conservative judges that will obey the constitution as it was written instead of having liberal activist judges that will make laws from the bench?
What's wrong is that "obeying the Constitution as it was written" is an amorphous, slippery idea, that is easy co-opted to advance one's own partisan interests. For example, how does financial contribution constitute "free speech"?
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Nationalism means putting American Citizens and the country first above the interests of other countries and foreign interests. That means ending bad trade deals and ending endless wars and endless occupations.
Nationalism is a daft and counterproductive idea, whether advanced by the Left or the Right. By bombastically claiming to put one's own nation's interests first, one gruffly announces to the world, a lack of sophistication or engagement... which ultimately diminishes the nation's reach or prosperity. Of course, every responsible leader aims to advance his/her nations interest, but this should be done by more diplomatic means at the tactical level, and more "long game" means at the strategic level. Our current leadership does neither.
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...We have been the world's police for decades. That's why we have been in endless wars and endless occupations since WW 2. You think everything was good before Trump?
There were substantial problems before Trump, and there will continue to be problems long after he leaves office. But the key idea is that for all of the ills of America trying to be the world's policeman, greater trouble will ensue, if this role abates. Who else would take over? Who else would ensure the steady flow of capital, goods and services, ideas and methods? America's endless wars are indefensibly stupid, and have caused financial and physical harm, both at home and abroad. But to disengage from wars is not the same as to disengage full-stop. We can reduce foreign military deployment without reducing foreign activity by diplomacy, investment, trade, and cultural exchange. The current administration is so committed to isolationism, that it would rather disengage entirely.
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