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Old 11-16-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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What I mean by the topic name is that it has now become abundantly clear to me that the Republican party’s central platform and campaign strategy is fear and resentment, and frankly it depresses me.

I’ve voted for republican candidates in the past, and as recently as 5 years ago...however, I’m not sure I ever will again. The fear, hatred and resentment that drives the party’s agenda and energizes it’s base is now in dangerous territory and it’s difficult for me to envision a way out of this hole.

It wasn’t always this way. I remember not too far back when the party had a positive message supported by conservative values and fiscal responsibility. That has been replaced with tribalism, nationalism and protectionism, fear-mongering, building walls, etc. etc. It’s gotten very dark.

Anyway, I’m wondering if anyone here agrees and also has a problem with the direction the party is heading.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The party has caved to the fear laced white nativist rhetoric of a wannabe strongman. A sad time indeed.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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I agree. I was a reliable Republican voter. However, unless I see a serious change I don't know when I will vote for a Republican for a national office again. I'd rather vote Democrat and for some policies with which I don't agree that for core principles that I vehemently oppose.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Really OP? I think you could replace the word Republican with Democrat and you would be on the right track.



The Left and their media outlets have been spreading fear since Trump started his campaign. They told us that if he was elected that he would start a war with Russia, North Korea, Iran and he would crash the stock market. They told us he would nuke the world in a rage. They told us how he is a fascist dictator wanna be Hitler that hates everyone and it goes on and on.



I agree that the Republicans have drifted to the far Right with many of their ideas but the Democrats have shifted to the extreme Left and some of their ideas are downright scary and dangerous.



Both parties need to do something, come together and stop dividing the country but the way I see it the Left is more to blame for starting it and the Right is merely responding to them while America suffers.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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The party has been hijacked and now operates as a crime syndicate whose sole purpose is to bilk the American people and further rob the treasury for their corporate puppet masters. The base is comprised of folks that need a scapegoat for their misery and are too ignorant or uneducated to realize that the current GOP and the ilk that led up to and enabled them is what has caused most of their misery. Then there is a portion of the base that just has a sociopathic and sadistic bent. No humanity whatsoever within the current GOP.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The party has been hijacked and now operates as a crime syndicate whose sole purpose is to bilk the American people and further rob the treasury for their corporate puppet masters. The base is comprised of folks that need a scapegoat for their misery and are too ignorant or uneducated to realize that the current GOP and the ilk that led up to and enabled them is what has caused most of their misery. Then there is a portion of the base that just has a sociopathic and sadistic bent. No humanity whatsoever within the current GOP.



A crime syndicate?

Money is moved around everyday from big business to bank and back and again with hopefully some of it landing in the hands of hard working Americans.


What is really a crime is how the Dems are encouraging and welcoming the illegal alien caravans that they are hoping will someday be their new voter base. They are willing to fund these people, allow them into the country under a refugee/asylum plea and hand them everything they need and want all while ignoring good Americans that are suffering under similar conditions that the caravan people are fleeing?



The real crime is that the caravan people are being used as a political tool by the Left.
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The party has been hijacked and now operates as a crime syndicate whose sole purpose is to bilk the American people and further rob the treasury for their corporate puppet masters. The base is comprised of folks that need a scapegoat for their misery and are too ignorant or uneducated to realize that the current GOP and the ilk that led up to and enabled them is what has caused most of their misery. Then there is a portion of the base that just has a sociopathic and sadistic bent. No humanity whatsoever within the current GOP.
While I think a "crime syndicate" is a little harsh, I 100% agree that all of the poor working class people who voted for Trump because they felt left behind and thought he would do something to change that are deluding themselves.

If anyone is not doing well in today's economy, there is one simple reason for that. They have failed to evolve their skillset for a changing economy to meet the market demands for today's in demand workers. Anyone is capable of doing that in the information age.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:36 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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One party rule for America! Democrat liberals now and forever! Happiness and prosperity will be complete for ever more!
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Really OP? I think you could replace the word Republican with Democrat and you would be on the right track.



The Left and their media outlets have been spreading fear since Trump started his campaign. They told us that if he was elected that he would start a war with Russia, North Korea, Iran and he would crash the stock market. They told us he would nuke the world in a rage. They told us how he is a fascist dictator wanna be Hitler that hates everyone and it goes on and on.



I agree that the Republicans have drifted to the far Right with many of their ideas but the Democrats have shifted to the extreme Left and some of their ideas are downright scary and dangerous.



Both parties need to do something, come together and stop dividing the country but the way I see it the Left is more to blame for starting it and the Right is merely responding to them while America suffers.

Yeah, agree. I think it's the opposite.

Democrats have gone WAY too left with the socialist (some would argue almost communist) agenda, with fear and violent protesting.

The liberal media (CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, NY Times,etc) is nonstop President Trump bashing--it's no longer fair reporting, it's just constant Trump bash after Trump bash. It's actually laughable in a sad way. Fox News tends to be a bit more fair, but definitely is a Republican slant--so that's not legit fair reporting either.

Democrats as a party should move more towards moderation. Republicans need to be less critical of Democrats, but that is hard to do when they violently go after people and angrily surround them in public.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:51 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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While I think a "crime syndicate" is a little harsh, I 100% agree that all of the poor working class people who voted for Trump because they felt left behind and thought he would do something to change that are deluding themselves.

If anyone is not doing well in today's economy, there is one simple reason for that. They have failed to evolve their skillset for a changing economy to meet the market demands for today's in demand workers. Anyone is capable of doing that in the information age.
I've got relatives in West Virginia coal country. The county went 80% for Trump in 2016 because he promised that the jobs would come back. Visited there last month. Jobs didn't come back but they are still supporting Trump and believing the jobs will return. Kind of sad, but hope is all they have. The poverty in the area is disheartening.
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