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Old 11-22-2018, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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1. Why if the prefrontal cortex (reasoning, rationality) is not fully developed until age 25 should anyone under that age be allowed to make big decisions like voting?
That fact doesn't mean anyone under 25 is an idiot. The capacity for intelligent reasoning is plenty well developed by 18. Just because it isn't FULLY developed before 25 does not mean someone cannot reason about things under that age.

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2. Why should someone who pays no taxes have any say whatsoever in voting and consequently how other people's money will be spent?
Because if they pay no taxes then they are likely very poor. Taking away their right to vote would rob them of the opportunity to have a say in how the country should deal with poor people. Poor citizens are just as much Americans as rich citizens.
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Old 11-22-2018, 10:19 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Everytime someone comes out against voting rights, they get jumped on. Answer these two questions:

1. Why if the prefrontal cortex (reasoning, rationality) is not fully developed until age 25 should anyone under that age be allowed to make big decisions like voting?

2. Why should someone who pays no taxes have any say whatsoever in voting and consequently how other people's money will be spent?
Garbage In, Garbage Out
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Old 11-22-2018, 10:22 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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That fact doesn't mean anyone under 25 is an idiot. The capacity for intelligent reasoning is plenty well developed by 18. Just because it isn't FULLY developed before 25 does not mean someone cannot reason about things under that age.


Because if they pay no taxes then they are likely very poor. Taking away their right to vote would rob them of the opportunity to have a say in how the country should deal with poor people. Poor citizens are just as much Americans as rich citizens.
Poor people are poor before they vote and voting didn't change their situation ... they learn, thus they are the least likely ones to show up to vote.
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Old 11-22-2018, 10:31 PM
 
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Everytime someone comes out against voting rights, they get jumped on. Answer these two questions:

1. Why if the prefrontal cortex (reasoning, rationality) is not fully developed until age 25 should anyone under that age be allowed to make big decisions like voting?

2. Why should someone who pays no taxes have any say whatsoever in voting and consequently how other people's money will be spent?
With your theory, anyone under age 25 shouldn’t be allowed to enlist and go to war. They can fight for our country, they just can’t vote. That’s messed up.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:45 AM
 
Location: Japan
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If at 18, folk are deemed to have the mental capacity to join the military (as I did), then we're have the mental capacity to vote as well.
Actually the military rejects lots of people for having insufficient mental capacity. About a quarter of the adult population is considered too dumb to join. It might be a good idea if voters were held to the military standards.
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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QUOTE=Bobdreamz;53706750]Isn't that the threshold to be a Republican today?

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what a totally stupid statement. Where do some get their ideas whether you are being sarcastic or not? Do you have any idea how few people make a salary even close to that and do you have any idea how many Republicans make more than say, $50,000 a year? Of course you do not. Look at all the southern states libs are always talking about: how stupid the southern people are and they are all poor. Well if that is the case, why do so many of them vote Republican? And explain to all of us why the New England states who love to brag about their education and incomes often are Democrats? Your statement has so many holes in it you may want to throw it in the trash?
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Actually the military rejects lots of people for having insufficient mental capacity. About a quarter of the adult population is considered too dumb to join. It might be a good idea if voters were held to the military standards.
First of all read the constitution; the voting age is 18, used to be 21. Many of us remember when it was 21 and hard it was for us to wait that long to cast our ballot. With that being said, you may was to also understand all those people, under 20 plus that are not able to join the service because they can not pass the basic tests are the same people, over all that do vote anyway.
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:53 AM
 
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So are you saying folks on disability and woman who are tending to family instead of working should not have voting rights?


Because if so I think a lot of Dems might be willing to switch positions for minute. That would definitely have thrown a couple of Senate seats their way in recent years...

"So are you saying folks on disability and woman who are tending to family instead of working should not have voting rights?"


Are they paying taxes? It is NOT that HARD a concept to understand!
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:55 AM
 
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If at 18, folk are deemed to have the mental capacity to join the military (as I did), then we're have the mental capacity to vote as well.

"]If at 18, folk are deemed to have the mental capacity to join the military (as I did), then we're have the mental capacity to vote as well"


But, NOT the capacity to buy alcohol!
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:57 AM
 
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Because this is America. AS for paying taxes, do you realize everyone pays taxes in some form. As for under 25, what about the men and women who put their lives on the line for us daily, shouldn't they have a right to vote?

I understand what you are saying. I have strong feelings about voter ID for instance: to me it is a MUST, but this does't mean I want to see the age limit or how much you pay in taxes to be eligible to change.

"Because this is America. AS for paying taxes, do you realize everyone pays taxes in some form."


I don't think it is too hard to understand the OP was talking about FEDERAL INCOME TAXES, IMO.
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