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Domestic Off shore drilling is going to be coming to a theatre near you soon -
It is about time
Look up what our own government predicts what would happen if say, we drilled in ANWR. At most a decrease in the price of a barrel of oil for maybe 40 cents.
It's a drop in the bucket to world oil demand. ANWR, Oil Shale in Colorado, off-shore drilling, none of this is going to lessen growing demand. And all OPEC has to do is lower production to match any increases in output we make, and the effect would be 'zero'. This is one problem we can't drill our way out of.
Look up what our own government predicts what would happen if say, we drilled in ANWR. At most a decrease in the price of a barrel of oil for maybe 40 cents.
It's a drop in the bucket to world oil demand. ANWR, Oil Shale in Colorado, off-shore drilling, none of this is going to lessen growing demand. And all OPEC has to do is lower production to match any increases in output we make, and the effect would be 'zero'. This is one problem we can't drill our way out of.
ANWR is not the only place where drilling will happen
If off shore production gets ramped up, on all coasts, along with drilling in the "heartland" along with ANWR - we will reduce the need to import foreign oil - that is a fact.
We have the capability and the capacity to replace, barrel for barrel, all the oil we are currently importing. This is a fact.
Please note - I'm not necessarily saying we increase the amount of crude we are using - I am suggesting however to replace everything we import.
We would provide new good jobs for AMERICANS.
We would reduce / eliminate dependence on foreign oil
We would keep the Dollar at home
We would help protect the National Security of the United States.
Remember this: We use oil for far more than gasoline / automotive products and heating. We will NEVER eliminate the need for oil.
Let's rely upon US for the supply - not some foreign country.
Please give me a link which states that US oil reserves could possibly make up for the vast majority of oil which is imported to the US on a daily basis.
You need to understand how hard it is to cultivate "oil shale". Its mixed in with porous rock, so its far more environmentally destructive than normal methods of drilling. We'd scar the landscape of that river valley trying to get to it. Its far more expensive to manufacture, and a lot of it of it is so deep that current methods are unable to reach it.
Again, we could lift all drilling and exploration laws this second, and absolutely zero effect would be felt on the global oil market. Most of that oil is decades away from reaching true production capability.
All of the effort in the world to tap those hypothetical resources would amount to nothing but a drop in the bucket. Why are you guys so afraid to admit the real problem when it comes to the energy crisis? Ourselves and our live-now-to-hell-with-tomorrow attitude?
I get it, he attended a top secret energy meeting that you seem to somehow get knowledge of..
You're not very well informed. Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request and were denied so they filed a lawsuit and the judge ordered Cheney to turn over the documents.
ANWR is not the only place where drilling will happen
If off shore production gets ramped up, on all coasts, along with drilling in the "heartland" along with ANWR - we will reduce the need to import foreign oil - that is a fact.
No it isn't. You are without a doubt, the least competent poster on the subject of oil. You get my vote for the Herr Josef Göbbels Göbbling Award, for which you get a nice 8 x 10 black and white glossy of Herr Göbbels that you can kiss every night before you go to bed.
There's a reason why the US imports oil from the Middle East, specifically, light sweet crude oil.
Show us how smart you really are, and explain to everyone why crude oils are classified as very heavy, heavy, intermediate, and light, and "sweet" and "sour" means then tell us the implications of that.
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We have the capability and the capacity to replace, barrel for barrel, all the oil we are currently importing. This is a fact.
Really? So we just tap the Magic Jesus Stick 3 times and 51,000 oil wells will magically be drilled and have pumps installed? Is that it?
How do you plan on getting the oil from the wells to the refineries? Ya gonna use ye olde tyme bucket brigade? Or do you plan on building thousands of miles of feeder pipelines, connecting pipelines and main pipelines?
Who's going to pay for all that? The US is currently suffering from a credit crunch and liquidity crisis. You want investors to sell their stocks in US manufacturing companies to buy stocks in oil companies and oil service companies? That's brilliant. What little manufacturing is left in the US will flee the country in search of capital.
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Please note - I'm not necessarily saying we increase the amount of crude we are using - I am suggesting however to replace everything we import.
So, you're suggesting that your Valtrex herpes medication can be made from heavy sour crude oil? Really? So why haven't you applied for a patent? You should be on TV and radio talk shows and lecturing at universities and laboratories all over the world, because you are the only person on the planet that knows how to make organic alcohols from heavy oil. In fact, a US Secret Service detail should be sent to guard you 24/7, at least until your patent is approved or you have demonstrated to the world how it can be done.
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Remember this: We use oil for far more than gasoline / automotive products and heating. We will NEVER eliminate the need for oil.
Yes, that's right, except you don't understand that some oils are more equal than others.
Someone has been listening to too many T. Boone Pickens commericals. And someone else is a junior journalist who has no damn idea about the petrochemical supply chain.
We're not going to drill ourselves out of this problem. We had a chance during the first embargo and we screwed it up. Time to step up and address the problem for our children (may be) but more likely, our children's children.
And we will always need oil - until someone really smart learns how to unzip the molecules we use for plastics manufacturing into some refinable form so we can catalyze it back into a group of functional plastics.
No it isn't. You are without a doubt, the least competent poster on the subject of oil. You get my vote for the Herr Josef Göbbels Göbbling Award, for which you get a nice 8 x 10 black and white glossy of Herr Göbbels that you can kiss every night before you go to bed.
There's a reason why the US imports oil from the Middle East, specifically, light sweet crude oil.
Show us how smart you really are, and explain to everyone why crude oils are classified as very heavy, heavy, intermediate, and light, and "sweet" and "sour" means then tell us the implications of that.
Really? So we just tap the Magic Jesus Stick 3 times and 51,000 oil wells will magically be drilled and have pumps installed? Is that it?
How do you plan on getting the oil from the wells to the refineries? Ya gonna use ye olde tyme bucket brigade? Or do you plan on building thousands of miles of feeder pipelines, connecting pipelines and main pipelines?
Who's going to pay for all that? The US is currently suffering from a credit crunch and liquidity crisis. You want investors to sell their stocks in US manufacturing companies to buy stocks in oil companies and oil service companies? That's brilliant. What little manufacturing is left in the US will flee the country in search of capital.
So, you're suggesting that your Valtrex herpes medication can be made from heavy sour crude oil? Really? So why haven't you applied for a patent? You should be on TV and radio talk shows and lecturing at universities and laboratories all over the world, because you are the only person on the planet that knows how to make organic alcohols from heavy oil. In fact, a US Secret Service detail should be sent to guard you 24/7, at least until your patent is approved or you have demonstrated to the world how it can be done.
Yes, that's right, except you don't understand that some oils are more equal than others.
Great post. The oil companies are not drilling the claims they already have. The push to open up offshore drilling is unnecessary and also opens up potential oil spill disasters.
Mircea, I wish I could rep you for that post again. LOL.
I don't know where all of this oil in "America's Heartland" is, but that guy should really let all of those geologists know, because they could clearly use his experience.
Great post. The oil companies are not drilling the claims they already have. The push to open up offshore drilling is unnecessary and also opens up potential oil spill disasters.
Do you know why the oil companies are not drilling in some of the leases they already have?
Do you know why the oil companies are not drilling in some of the leases they already have?
Ask them.
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