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Old 07-09-2008, 02:04 PM
 
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the bush administration has been trying to lower gas prices and reduce the price of crude oil for the entire 8 years so please ask your self and check the voting record for your house and congress run by the democrats and all voted for no drilling, no nuclear and no oil refineries. What did you think was going to happen, its called supply and demand and china and india will be getting most of the oil. Until we become a supplier we will be held hostage by the middle east forever so get use to it.
Repubs want an easy scapegoat to blame for high oil prices, so they point to US drilling. Well, it's available but the oil companies aren't drilling it.

"You see, although oil companies complain that oil supply is low because there isn’t enough public land available for them to drill on, those same companies are moving as slow as slugs to actually begin drilling on the public land they’re already leasing. The huge majority of land leased for the purposes of oil exploration hasn’t actually been tapped by the oil companies yet. They’re just sitting on that land, not drilling it."

That’s My Congress » Republicans Vote Against Quick Oil Drilling On Existing Leases
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I guess it all depends on who you choose to believe.

"Average temperatures in the Arctic region are rising twice as fast as they are elsewhere in the world. Arctic ice is getting thinner, melting and rupturing. For example, the largest single block of ice in the Arctic, the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf, had been around for 3,000 years before it started cracking in 2000. Within two years it had split all the way through and is now breaking into pieces.
The polar ice cap as a whole is shrinking. Images from NASA satellites show that the area of permanent ice cover is contracting at a rate of 9 percent each decade. If this trend continues, summers in the Arctic could become ice-free by the end of the century."

NRDC: Global Warming Puts the Arctic on Thin Ice
Once again... the ice in the Arctic is more this year than last year.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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Once again... the ice in the Arctic is more this year than last year.
Once again, there are facts to dispute that.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Once again, there are facts to dispute that.
Not really Gorgeet - actual measurements are showing increases -
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:34 AM
 
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Not really Gorgeet - actual measurements are showing increases -
Like I said...
Nearing meltdown

By Fiona Harvey
Published: May 30 2008 14:55 | Last updated: May 30 2008 14:55


"However, since the IPCC report was published last year, events in the Arctic have accelerated. Last summer, the Arctic ice sheet shrank to the lowest extent ever recorded, according to the Ny Alesund researchers. This rate of melting was about three times faster than most climate models had predicted.
“Something significant is happening with the [Arctic] climate,” says Sheldon Drobot of the Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research. “During the first week in July [2007], the Arctic sea ice started to disappear at rates we had never seen before.”
This more rapid melting has prompted scientists to bring forward their forecasts of when the ice cap will disappear altogether. Predictions used to centre on the Arctic losing its ice by the end of the century, an estimate subsequent research shortened to about 2050."

FT.com / Partnership Publishing - Nearing meltdown
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:51 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Thumbs up Since Bush Took Office The Price Of Gas Has Tripled - Good For Him And His Saudi Oil Connections!

Who ever said that lil' Bush isn't good for business? (Saudi business)

http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bush_abdullah_chaching.jpg (broken link)
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Like I said...
Nearing meltdown

By Fiona Harvey
Published: May 30 2008 14:55 | Last updated: May 30 2008 14:55


"However, since the IPCC report was published last year, events in the Arctic have accelerated. Last summer, the Arctic ice sheet shrank to the lowest extent ever recorded, according to the Ny Alesund researchers. This rate of melting was about three times faster than most climate models had predicted.
“Something significant is happening with the [Arctic] climate,” says Sheldon Drobot of the Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research. “During the first week in July [2007], the Arctic sea ice started to disappear at rates we had never seen before.”
This more rapid melting has prompted scientists to bring forward their forecasts of when the ice cap will disappear altogether. Predictions used to centre on the Arctic losing its ice by the end of the century, an estimate subsequent research shortened to about 2050."

FT.com / Partnership Publishing - Nearing meltdown
The IPCC, which works for the U.N, has a definite bias.

And you are again posting 2007 data. It doesn't change the fact that there was more ice this winter ('07-'08) than last winter ('06-'07).
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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The IPCC, which works for the U.N, has a definite bias.

And you are again posting 2007 data. It doesn't change the fact that there was more ice this winter ('07-'08) than last winter ('06-'07).
The data I posted is more current than what you posted.
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Old 07-14-2008, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Domestic Off shore drilling is going to be coming to a theatre near you soon -

It is about time
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Old 07-14-2008, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Here
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Woot! Black Gold!
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