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Old 07-16-2008, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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universally recognized as the worst president in history to you and your friends. sorry, but history isn't instantaneous. you obviously have a hard time reading. I replied to a post you made and explained all of my positions and proved you wrong on all of your assumptions. you obviously read only what you choose to read. I have no reason to make you take mccain or republicans seriously, as I support neither of them.

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Just because I (along with the other Obama supporters) hold the superior position here doesn't make my message "hate." I wouldn't call outrage over the pathetic nature of the policies of the last 7 years, hate. Universally recognized as the worst president in history, condemning Bush is not hate. Recognizing that mcCain sat idly by while these pathetic policies were promoted is not hate. Being aghast over the unncessary killing of over 4100 soldiers and a million Iraqis is not hate. Recogizing that the affairs of this country, the domestic agenda, is in shambles because of trillions squandered is not hate.

Sorry, but I don't support McCain or the Republicans, recipients of overwhelming support from bigots. Be of value here. Why should I support McCain after 7 years of republican nonsense?

I have an open mind. Give me a reason to take you, McCain, and the republicans seriously.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:39 AM
 
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universally recognized as the worst president in history to you and your friends. sorry, but history isn't instantaneous. you obviously have a hard time reading. I replied to a post you made and explained all of my positions and proved you wrong on all of your assumptions. you obviously read only what you choose to read. I have no reason to make you take mccain or republicans seriously, as I support neither of them.
You don't support Ron paul, Democrats, McCain or republicans, so my question is what politician do you support?
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I support myself, because that's the only thing I have control over. politicians are dirt bags, and they are all the same. I have libertarian principles, but I doubt I could support bob barr.

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You don't support Ron paul, Democrats, McCain or republicans, so my question is what politician do you support?
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:59 AM
 
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Please expalin how his agenda is anti-American.

His lunatic pastor that he sat and listened to for 20 years, who presided over his marriage and baptized his kids is anti-American.

His friend, mentor and campaign contributor William Ayers is an unrepentant, domestic terrorist and America HATER.

His agenda is simply a far-left, socialist one. His associates and mentors, the people that influence him and got him to where he is, they are openly anti-American. You think that none of their filth rubbed off on him in the last 20 years or so?
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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His lunatic pastor that he sat and listened to for 20 years, who presided over his marriage and baptized his kids is anti-American.
Obama's former preacher is a whack-job, no doubt. How does that make Obama anti-American?

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His friend, mentor and campaign contributor William Ayers is an unrepentant, domestic terrorist and America HATER.
Ayers is all the things you say. He showed up at a fundraiser for Obama's Illinois state senate campaign. How does that make Obama anti-American?

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His agenda is simply a far-left, socialist one. His associates and mentors, the people that influence him and got him to where he is, they are openly anti-American. You think that none of their filth rubbed off on him in the last 20 years or so?
I think you're stretching some points to justify your opposition to the man. Maybe not. But that's how it comes across.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:27 AM
 
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His agenda is simply a far-left, socialist one. His associates and mentors, the people that influence him and got him to where he is, they are openly anti-American. You think that none of their filth rubbed off on him in the last 20 years or so?
There' a thread over here with a link to Obama's interview Sunday with Fareed Zakaria at CNN. I'm not seeing evidence of "filth rubbed off" in that transcript. Could you please look over there and point out where he's far-left, socialist, or showing the influence of (I suppose you mean) Rezko, Wright or Ayers?
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:30 AM
 
Location: la
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You should be more afraid of the uninsured, unemployed, homeless masses that are going to be flooding the streets after 4 more years if your candidate gets elected. Hungry, poor people can get pretty dangerous.

This scenario is more likely than yours.

The homeless have flooded the streets for YEARS before bush and they will be here YEARS after bush. Come on people things were happening WAY before Bush even became president! Use commen sense! Bin laden was here b4 bush but dumb ass clinton never did anyhting the first time he attacked the towers and many other ships and things , and ppl wanna blame pres bush???? It just goes to show how stupid ppl really can be??
and obama ??? If and I say IF he gets in, God help us all we r gonna really suffer as a nation. I dont think we r gonna last 4 yrs.I know if this country votes him in which i highly DOUBT, it will be on YOU!!!! If he gets in he want be here long. Call me rascist, so be it! Thats the way I feel , along with alot of people. Im not ashamed.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The homeless have flooded the streets for YEARS before bush and they will be here YEARS after bush. Come on people things were happening WAY before Bush even became president! Use commen sense! Bin laden was here b4 bush but dumb ass clinton never did anyhting the first time he attacked the towers and many other ships and things , and ppl wanna blame pres bush???? It just goes to show how stupid ppl really can be??
and obama ??? If and I say IF he gets in, God help us all we r gonna really suffer as a nation. I dont think we r gonna last 4 yrs.I know if this country votes him in which i highly DOUBT, it will be on YOU!!!! If he gets in he want be here long. Call me rascist, so be it! Thats the way I feel , along with alot of people. Im not ashamed.
wow! Strong coffee? relax.

I'm curious, perhaps you can help. You say President Clinton did nothing to stop Bin Laden, correct? Why wasn't it the top priority of the next Administration to correct this? By your assertion, the logical conclusion is - knowing he was a threat (he'd already attacked us and got away with it right?) why didn't we go after him? Just curious.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:40 AM
 
Location: la
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wow! Strong coffee? relax.

I'm curious, perhaps you can help. You say President Clinton did nothing to stop Bin Laden, correct? Why wasn't it the top priority of the next Administration to correct this? By your assertion, the logical conclusion is - knowing he was a threat (he'd already attacked us and got away with it right?) why didn't we go after him? Just curious.
remember the parking garage ?
I dont drnk coffee maybe i should?
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:46 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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universally recognized as the worst president in history to you and your friends.
And about 75% of the American public. Bush will certainly go down as the worst president in living memory. He'll probably be judged the worst since the civil war. He could very possibly be classed as the all-time worst.

The jury hasn't been silent. Current historians have been speaking about Bush's dismal performance for several years. Bush has done nothing but stupidly and stubbornly "stay the course" despite all the indications that the'd taken a wrong turn.

His place at the bottom of the dustbin of history is already waiting for him.

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sorry, but history isn't instantaneous.
It most certainly is! All of yesterday's events are already history, never to be redone. Bush has no time left in his term to salvage his reputation. His incompetence and narrow-mindedness will cause great damage to the GOP for some time into the future. America will take some time to recover from his bungling and borderline criminal "leadership", but we'll bounce back.

My hope is that Bush lives a long life, painfully aware of public scorn and historical condemnation. He richly deserves it.
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