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I am very familiar with the bible, bobby joe, I just interpret it a little differently than some psycho zealots....ERRRR..... certain brands of Christians do.
Typical dem response, I'm sure you are the same type of "Christian" that Barry Obama is. Good luck with that, I'm sure the Bible that you are interpreting is all for murder, abortion, homosexuality, so on and so forth...But don't flatter yourself HilBily4, it would take an actual Christian with a real sense of the Bible to actually "get under my goat".
Typical dem response, I'm sure you are the same type of "Christian" that Barry Obama is. Good luck with that, I'm sure the Bible that you are interpreting is all for murder, abortion, homosexuality, so on and so forth...But don't flatter yourself HilBily4, it would take an actual Christian with a real sense of the Bible to actually "get under my goat".
Are you voting for John McCain? If you are then you are supporting divorce and adultery. I have a feeling you are somehow okay with those two.
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“It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
MAT 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.19:9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."18 "Which ones?" the man inquired. Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony,
Note abortion or murder as you call it, is in the same category as adultery?
Typical dem response, I'm sure you are the same type of "Christian" that Barry Obama is. Good luck with that, I'm sure the Bible that you are interpreting is all for murder, abortion, homosexuality, so on and so forth...But don't flatter yourself HilBily4, it would take an actual Christian with a real sense of the Bible to actually "get under my goat".
LOL. I am all New Testament baby. Turn the other cheek.
I think the trick is, dont have sex with someone whose baby you dont want. This society however encourages irresponsible sex. But you cant legislate popular culture per se.
Abortions have always been and will always be. Thats just a fact, it's pointless to bemoan it. Maybe the most realistic way to cope with the reality of it is to adopt the "safe, legal and rare" POV.
Of course abortions will always happen, but it isn't pointless to bemoan that fact. Our love ones die, and we grieve over the loss, even though it doesn't bring them back. It shows that we are humans who care. I hope we never lose that ability to mourn the loss of a loved one, be it an older person, or a life that has only begun. There should always be someone who weeps. Everyone deserves to be missed by someone.
Typical dem response, I'm sure you are the same type of "Christian" that Barry Obama is. Good luck with that, I'm sure the Bible that you are interpreting is all for murder, abortion, homosexuality, so on and so forth...But don't flatter yourself HilBily4, it would take an actual Christian with a real sense of the Bible to actually "get under my goat".
Lets be real, you, like most of us are no more than a "Cafeteria Catholic", it's a lot easier that way. Let's call a spade a spade.
I was not pronouncing judgement on other Christians. I was saying how I deal with the abortion issue and the current slate of candidates. Were we all perfect, we would already be dead. Now please tell me how voting for John McCain is going to reduce the incidence of abortion.
Not sure how you got Bush into the mix but oh well will Dumbo cure sickle cell?. Meanwhile back ON topic, Christians are anti murder, many MANY see the termination of an unborn CHILD (since we can assume it's not a tyrannosaurus) as the worst kind of murder. Jesus was about as non violent as one could get, sucking a fetus out of a womb falls into the violent mode.
So let's hear your solution to ending abortions....
I was not pronouncing judgement on other Christians. I was saying how I deal with the abortion issue and the current slate of candidates. Were we all perfect, we would already be dead. Now please tell me how voting for John McCain is going to reduce the incidence of abortion.
Sadly abortion is here to stay but infanticide like the empty suit supports may be another matter.
Many Religious Voters Favor Obama, Poll Finds - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Among most other Christian groups, the Democratic candidate continues to enjoy a comfortable lead. Obama has a huge advantage among non-Christians, atheists, and agnostics, but he also leads among nonevangelical, born-again Christians (43 to 31), Christians who are neither born-again nor evangelical (44 to 28), Catholics (39 to 29), and Protestants (43 to 34). "If the current preferences stand pat," says Barna, "this would mark the first time in more than two decades that the born-again vote has swung toward the Democratic candidate."
Also from the cited article:
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The Barna poll uses unusual methodology. Many pollsters take voters at their word when they say they are evangelical Christians, but the Barna survey is unusually specific about its categorizations. It asks voters a battery of nine questions about their religious beliefs--whether, for example, they think the Bible is accurate in everything it teaches, and whether they feel a personal responsibility to share their beliefs about Christ with non-Christians. Only when all nine questions are answered affirmatively are voters categorized as "evangelical."
This significantly reduces the survey's estimate of the total number of evangelical voters. By Barna's estimate, only 8 percent of U.S. voters are truly evangelical. "That is a much smaller group than you might think," says George Barna, the poll's director.
Not everybody agrees with his methodology, of course. Regardless, there is little doubt that evangelicals are still a highly motivated, well-organized voting bloc. Nearly 90 percent of evangelicals in the Barna study said they intend to vote in November.
These numbers certainly aren't set in stone, and they are bound to change before November. The first harsh months of the campaign, including the controversy surrounding Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, have shaken some Christian voters' early confidence in him. During the past two months, Obama's lead has eroded substantially among nonevangelical, born-again Christians (down 9 percentage points), active Christians (a 20-point drop), Protestants (down 13 points), and Catholics (down 11 points).
When the pre-election advertising campaigns begin this fall--particularly those that emphasize Obama's support for abortion rights--those numbers may continue to drop. "There is a lot of anger toward the Bush administration," says Barna. "But faith-driven voters, in particular, are going back and re-examining their initial choice (Obama) and trying to figure out if this is really someone whose values they can live with for another four to eight years."
Is it good for the Democratic Party to lure in "religious" Americans? Does the Democratic Party really care?
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Bemoaning abortions
Let's call a spade a spade.
