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Old 09-05-2008, 10:14 PM
 
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It is really upsetting to me to see the Obama supporters continually calling him "McBush" when it is clear that he deserves better and is definitely his own man. I quite frankly was undecided but the more I see of McCain the more I like and the opposite can be said for Obama.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:22 PM
 
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It is really upsetting to me to see the Obama supporters continually calling him "McBush" when it is clear that he deserves better and is definitely his own man. I quite frankly was undecided but the more I see of McCain the more I like and the opposite can be said for Obama.
Well, I don't believe in calling names either...

As long as your looks at McCain are because he and his platform aligns with your views, who can argue?

I won't however use your ethnicity as an arguement as to why you are doing so, which so many people say is the primary reason for Obama's support.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:25 PM
 
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It is really upsetting to me to see the Obama supporters continually calling him "McBush" when it is clear that he deserves better and is definitely his own man.
How about McStain, McPain or McSame?
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:35 PM
 
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How about McStain, McPain or McSame?
All are equally objectionable. I personally have always tried to maintain a higher level discourse and refer to Obama supporter as such and not call names. Wouldn't it be nice if others did likewise!
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:37 PM
 
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How about McStain, McPain or McSame?
Not Nice...
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:40 PM
 
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All are equally objectionable. I personally have always tried to maintain a higher level discourse and refer to Obama supporter as such and not call names. Wouldn't it be nice if others did likewise!
Yes, me too. I don't care for him but it never occurred to me to call him "funny names". It seems so junior high school.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Don't give me crap about "all Obama voters"...the question was whether Black voters will be more upset. YOU KNOW THEY WILL. I've never seen Black people crying at a DNC before this year...so obviously, they are more invested in the political process this year b/c a candidate that looks like them is running. I'm not even saying I blame them....I just don't know why it is so hard to admit.

Is it b/c you think it invalidates Obama...like Republicans will look at him as not really being qualified b/c he only won b/c he is Black rather than b/c he is smart & ready to lead?
Aha, but that is why I think Obama is doing so well. Because the Black community sees him as both. They like that he is Black (well to be exact he's bi-racial, but that's another argument for another day, and one that's already been beat to death on here actually), and that he's smart and ready to lead. A previous poster made a good point that there have been Black candidates in the past who did not get this sort of backing from the Black community, so to pin it only on race is shortsighted. Don't get me wrong, race definitely plays a big part in why Black people are so enthusiastic about Obama but its only a part of it. Its not like they are supporting Lil Wayne for president.

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Old 09-05-2008, 11:59 PM
 
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I think the people who look at him as not qualified see that he has very little foreign policy experience and fear that he is not ready for the world stage. I would feel alot more comfortable if he had run in 2012 when he has more experience. He also seems to have isolationist tendences as well as being prone to appeasement. I would say the same for Palin but the big difference is that she is the VICE Presidential candidate and will have time to develope the skills necessary. As has been pointed out Obama has only been in the Senate one term and most of that was spent campaigning for president. From that point Palin has more actual time as Governor than Obama has as Senator.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:36 AM
 
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I think the people who look at him as not qualified see that he has very little foreign policy experience and fear that he is not ready for the world stage. I would feel alot more comfortable if he had run in 2012 when he has more experience. He also seems to have isolationist tendences as well as being prone to appeasement. I would say the same for Palin but the big difference is that she is the VICE Presidential candidate and will have time to develope the skills necessary. As has been pointed out Obama has only been in the Senate one term and most of that was spent campaigning for president. From that point Palin has more actual time as Governor than Obama has as Senator.
Didn't John Edwards have the same amount of experience when he first ran too? I'm not 100% sure of that, but it's something I heard. If so, I don't remember experience ever being mentioned when he was running.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:40 AM
 
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There are many things that are inhibiting the advancement of black people, however not voting for Republicans is not one of them. The Republican party has done absolutely nothing to reach out to black people. Even more to the point, they have implemented strategies that many black people find offensive, if not flat out racist.

Where are the Republicans on issues related to civil rights, unfair treatment in the criminal justice system, and the various social ills that disproportionately impact black people? They have choosen not to address these issues and as a result, black people have written them off.

~ButterBrownBiscuit~

So the democrats get a pass because?
The Democrats' Missing History - WSJ.com
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