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I have enjoyed working here these past several years. You have paid me very well, given me benefits beyond belief.
I have 3-4 months off per year and a pension plan that will pay my salary till the day I die and a health plan that most people can only dream about.
Despite this I plan to t ake the next 12-18 months to find a new position.
During this time I will show up for work when it is convenient.
In addition I fully expect to draw my full salary and all the other perks associated with my current job.
Oh yeah, if my search for this new job proves fruitless, I will be back with no loss in pay or status.
Before you say anything, remember that you have no choice in the matter. I can and will do this.
Sincerely,
Every Senator or Congressman running for President.
Try That at Your Job and Tell Me How it Works Out !!!
Nanny-nanny boo-boo what you say bounces off me and sticks to you!
How old are you??
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Because the voices in your radio repeat something, does not make it true.
No but when they FACTS to back it up then yes.
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40% of the people do not pay taxes?
Thats right.
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Do 40% of people never make a purchase during the year?
that is not federal tax.
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Do 40% of Americans not pay Social Security taxes?
They will get social security back and more, so no is not a tax,
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Are you ignoring state taxes too?
We are talking about federal tax, dont try to change the subject. The state doenst want to spread the wealth, is Obama and the federal government.
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As a PERCENTAGE OF INCOME, the lowest earners in America pay the most taxes. It's a fact.
NO is not a fact.
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"In the year 2000, at the height of the last economic boom and before the most recent round of tax cuts were enacted, IRS data shows that the richest 400 taxpayers paid 27% of their income in federal, state, and local taxes. On average, these 400 taxpayers each had taxable income of $151 million. All other taxpayers had average taxable income of only $34,600, and yet their tax burden was 40%." AskQuestions.org - Article: Who Really Pays Taxes in America?
Please go to the IRS webpage and get the real information not from askquestions.org
But here, so that you dont have to search it..
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/top_50__of_wage_earners_pay_96_09__of_income_taxes .Par.0008.ImageFile.jpg (broken link)
I think is clear that the top 5% pay more. And still people think they should pay more.
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Good to know that you know what I know.
Since you havent read anything about the subject I am happy you agree with me, I dont know what you know on the subject, nothing.
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I actually listen to talk radio every day. I have a sick sense of humor.
I know, sometimes the truth hurts.
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Taxes don't have anything to do with the quality of healthcare?
Who is talking about healthcare??
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Who needs a break with that, err, thought of yours? It's these so-called "Socialist" nations that provide health care to all their citizens,
Ok, I am lost, what does Obama tax plan has to do with his healthcare plan, this is more evidence that you dont know what you are talking about.
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have a much higher life-expectancy and report a much higher level of happiness with their lives.
OMG...
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He owes the state back taxes. The credit markets are frozen. Loans are hard to come by, especially for unskilled laborers with a child who owe a mortgage on a 90,000 house. Do you think he could buy the company?
Yes, he can buy the business from the owner(DEED).
Once upon a time in the United States, there was a man named Huey P. Long. He served first as governor then later senator from the State of Louisiana. In 1934 he announced a plan called "Share Our Wealth" to which was attached the slogan "Every Man A King". Long felt that the Great Depression was caused by the disparity between rich and poor and that adopting his program would solve the crisis.
Among some of the things Long proposed was to limit the annual income of every American citizen, limit the amount of money an individual could inherit, guarantee every family an income if they made less then one third the national average income, and give free education to every child from elementary school through college. The key to Long's plan was to use the federal tax code to collect the excess income and share what was taken in with the American people via government benefits. In 1934, Huey Long wanted to set the income limit at one million dollars per person. Today apparently the threshold has been lowered so that anything over $250,000 makes you wealthy in America.
When discussing "Share Our Wealth", Huey Long stated:
"We do not propose to say there shall be no rich men. We do not ask to divide the wealth. We only propose that, when one man gets more then he and his children and children's children can spend in their lifetimes, that then we shall say that such person has his share".
Barack Obama says:
"It's not that I want to punish your success. I want to make sure everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success, too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody".
Today, just like before, we see politicians pushing the bankrupt, populist notion that the government can actually level the playing field for everyone and guarantee that life will finally be fair. And all it will take to accomplish this is for the rich to be "patriotic" and give just a little bit more (after all they are rich, they can afford it). Once they do, prosperity will magically spread throughout the land. Given the dismal track record the government has with most anything it gets it's hands on, I don't understand why people suddenly are so willing to believe that government can "fix" this "problem".
Barack Obama may not be Huey Long reincarnated. But I suspect that the old "Kingfish" would be very proud regardless.
We are not sure this will work--we have to talk to our accountant. But we've decided that if Obama becomes President, we will increase our charitable contributions where we know our money will go to people that really need it and/or put more money into our retirement accounts to avoid paying the additional taxes, to whatever extent that would be. That way we are choosing where that money goes instead of giving it to a government that will use it to fund whatever Obama deems appropriate.
I think that's what just happened with Wall Street, right?
You are absolutely correct. That is why most conservatives and libertarians did not support the bailout. George Bush is not a fiscal conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but has thrown money around like a drunken sailor.
We are not sure this will work--we have to talk to our accountant. But we've decided that if Obama becomes President, we will increase our charitable contributions where we know our money will go to people that really need it and/or put more money into our retirement accounts to avoid paying the additional taxes, to whatever extent that would be. That way we are choosing where that money goes instead of giving it to a government that will use it to fund whatever Obama deems appropriate.
Ditto here. We will be giving it to who we deem the beneficiaries, not a politician.
Isn't that statement basically the American Dream? As opposed to what Bush gave us: The wealthy "top tier," no middle class and abject poverty in the lower classes. Isn't that what Reagan tried to pass off as "trickle down economics?" All that means is giving people from ALL walks of life the opportunity to earn a living wage. And, in order to do that, one must obtain a decent paying job IN AMERICA!
Good grief!
if you want to get up like I do and work hard at a business that you birthed, like I have
only to have someone too lazy to get off their butts and do something, get a check, then great.....give them your money, but keep your frigging hands off of mine!
If Obama has his way, there will be no decent paying jobs in America
Isn't that statement basically the American Dream? As opposed to what Bush gave us: The wealthy "top tier," no middle class and abject poverty in the lower classes. Isn't that what Reagan tried to pass off as "trickle down economics?" All that means is giving people from ALL walks of life the opportunity to earn a living wage. And, in order to do that, one must obtain a decent paying job IN AMERICA!
You're going to get a lot of vindictive posts on this one - but you have hit on the truth...
I don't think of it as 'spreading the wealth around' - so much as making the tax system more progressive.
Right now the tax code is totally biased in favor of the wealthy - they get huge tax discounts on their major source of income (capital gains), they pay a lower effective tax rate than the average middle class worker - even Warren Buffet sees the inequity on this.
I hope Obama does increase the marginal tax rates on income above $250,000. And I hope he makes it a big increase. I see no reason why it could not be at least 40%.
I also hope he lifts the cap on social security on wages above $250,000.
He should also index the Alternative Minimum Tax so it targets those it originally intended to - wealthy people paying little or no tax - and so it stops hitting the middle-class.
I also hope he introduces tax penalties for moving jobs offshore, and tax credits for creating or retaining jobs here...
The wealthy will scoff at this - but then many of them are motivated by pure greed - a basic emotion.
They should begin paying their fair share again...
You're going to get a lot of vindictive posts on this one - but you have hit on the truth...
I don't think of it as 'spreading the wealth around' - so much as making the tax system more progressive.
Right now the tax code is totally biased in favor of the wealthy - they get huge tax discounts on their major source of income (capital gains), they pay a lower effective tax rate than the average middle class worker - even Warren Buffet sees the inequity on this.
I hope Obama does increase the marginal tax rates on income above $250,000. And I hope he makes it a big increase. I see no reason why it could not be at least 40%.
I also hope he lifts the cap on social security on wages above $250,000.
He should also index the Alternative Minimum Tax so it targets those it originally intended to - wealthy people paying little or no tax - and so it stops hitting the middle-class.
I also hope he introduces tax penalties for moving jobs offshore, and tax credits for creating or retaining jobs here...
The wealthy will scoff at this - but then many of them are motivated by pure greed - a basic emotion.
They should begin paying their fair share again...
HubbleRules
About 10 years ago, my husband left his job because he had a dream of starting his own company. We were newly married & had just bought a house & I wasn't making much $$. But it was time-my husband knew it. We used some of our savings, took out a 50K second mortgage on our new home & hoped like hell our 'dream' would work out. We started the company in the basement of our home, worked 6 days a week, 14 hour days for a long, long time. It took tears & dedication because we just knew we could do it. I'm happy to say it ended in the best success we could ever have imagined as our company grew to nationwide proportions. Was is luck, talent, hard work or a little of all 3? Now years later, where we are now- I look back & think how fortunate we are. We have 2 small children now & we have invested for their futures. Neither one of us came from wealthy families. My parents still live in the 35 year old 1,300 sq. ft. ranch home I was raised in. They are 62 & both work full time jobs- & they are both happy with the income they have. They would never accept help or a handout from anyone. I had a great life growing up but we worked for everything we had. Now my husband & I are still the same people at heart. Humble beginnings with some hard work & success in life. I love how people try & villify the "wealthy". We are all mean evil selfish folks right?!
The amount of taxes we currently pay would blow your mind. Now, its so nice of you to volunteer us to pay 40%- you see no reason why we shouldn't & you have no clue. It's easy when you don't have to pay the extra huh? Sorry if after years of blood sweat & tears, we aren't so free willing to give away more of our hard earned money to people who aren't willing to try & succeed for themselves. We did it & risked everything. That's what sets people apart. Not everyone succeeds but it's the drive that sets them apart from the folks at home praying Obama wins so they can get an increase in their monthly government checks or pay even less taxes than the amount they already do. Or those that might want to do better but why should they? If they succeed, they'll only get taxed more so what's the point right?!
Yes, let's stick it to those horrible, greedy b*stards that make more than 250K That mentality never ceases to amaze me.
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That mentality never ceases to amaze me.
