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Most African Americans who are socioeconomically middle class and higher do not necessarily need Affirmative Action. Nor do they want to have to fight the stigma of Affirmative Action.
There is a fear however among AfAms that if we do not have laws in place that we will face blatant discrimation. For example, a small business owner who does not want to hire a Black to work for their company regardless of the person's qualifications. Affirmative Action policies will probably never be a factor for that small business owner - no one is really going to make that company fall into compliance.
The one thing that most Whites do not consider when discussing Affirmative Action is how White women, Hispanics and others have benefited from AffAct.
Affirmative Action at the college level. I remember when I was applying to colleges that I made a conscious discussion to exclude my race(marked decline to state) from my applications and made sure that my essays were racially sterile. And I did not have a face-to-face interview with any of the schools. I was accepted to most of my chosen schools based on my credentials. However, the assumption of many Whites has been that I was accepted because of AffAct. I always reply that I never stated my race on apps. And reminder people that even if some students do get accepted because of an AffAct program by a college, these schools do not have a AffAct policy in who graduates.
The "playing field" will never be level. I think that I have personally learned that if I don't get a job because the people hiring don't "like" Black people....I don't want to work there.
A lot of Blacks feel the same way. If companies won't hire you because you are Black, start your own business!
Most African Americans who are socioeconomically middle class and higher do not necessarily need Affirmative Action. Nor do they want to have to fight the stigma of Affirmative Action.
There is a fear however among AfAms that if we do not have laws in place that we will face blatant discrimation. For example, a small business owner who does not want to hire a Black to work for their company regardless of the person's qualifications. Affirmative Action policies will probably never be a factor for that small business owner - no one is really going to make that company fall into compliance.
The one thing that most Whites do not consider when discussing Affirmative Action is how White women, Hispanics and others have benefited from AffAct.
Affirmative Action at the college level. I remember when I was applying to colleges that I made a conscious discussion to exclude my race(marked decline to state) from my applications and made sure that my essays were racially sterile. And I did not have a face-to-face interview with any of the schools. I was accepted to most of my chosen schools based on my credentials. However, the assumption of many Whites has been that I was accepted because of AffAct. I always reply that I never stated my race on apps. And reminder people that even if some students do get accepted because of an AffAct program by a college, these schools do not have a AffAct policy in who graduates.
The "playing field" will never be level. I think that I have personally learned that if I don't get a job because the people hiring don't "like" Black people....I don't want to work there.
A lot of Blacks feel the same way. If companies won't hire you because you are Black, start your own business!
Thanks. Alot of good points there. However, Do you thing Obama was pushed ahead (so to speak) because of the dems need to show they are racially sensitive and to get a dem in the white house no matter what?
Thanks. Alot of good points there. However, Do you thing Obama was pushed ahead (so to speak) because of the dems need to show they are racially sensitive and to get a dem in the white house no matter what?
The Democrats do want the White House, of course. I think that they were surprised that Obama pulled ahead of Hillary as the frontrunner.
I can honestly say that no one thought that America was "really" ready to elect a Black President but Obama is magnetic and he reminds a lot of people of the "Camelot" era with JFK. That was before my day but the world was turning upside down just as things are today.
America is seeking someone who is intelligent, personable, approachable, youthful and somewhat idealistic. Obama fits that bill better than any of the other candidates (Dem or Rep). I think that if the Reps had put forth a younger Republican who was more dynamic that this race would have been a closer one.
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The Democrats do want the White House, of course. I think that they were surprised that Obama pulled ahead of Hillary as the frontrunner.
I can honestly say that no one thought that America was "really" ready to elect a Black President but Obama is magnetic and he reminds a lot of people of the "Camelot" era with JFK. That was before my day but the world was turning upside down just as things are today.
America is seeking someone who is intelligent, personable, approachable, youthful and somewhat idealistic. Obama fits that bill better than any of the other candidates (Dem or Rep). I think that if the Reps had put forth a younger Republican who was more dynamic that this race would have been a closer one.
You see, I have really no problem with Obama as a citizen. In fact, I would welcome anyone (Black, white, Asian Et al) into the white house if I felt they were qualified enough. I am no real fan of McCain either, but i consider him the more qualified man in my opinion. In these uncertain times with terrorism looming around the corner and illegal immigration out of control, I am voting for the candidate that has more than "Magnetism" or bieng "aproachable".
This according to Michael Savage who claims that Obama was only forwarded, even over Hillary Clinton to be the first Affirmative action President". Please tell me if there is any merit in that statement...
At the Dem convention and in several other speeches, obama stated he did not want his girls to get anywhere due to race ( I took that to mean he was anit-affirmative action). In other arguments and speeches, he says it is due to his wealth.
I figure aftewr he messes up the govt, no one will have any money so there will be no need for affirmative action.... at that point, we will be a thrid world nation with out college -- or everyone will qualify either on race or poverty ( yes, there are 2 types of ways to get it)
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