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Old 12-15-2008, 05:40 PM
 
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Cort Wrotnowksi's case, Wrotnowksi v. Connecticut Secretary of State, has been denied by the U. S. Supreme Court.

Docket #08A469 -- The application for stay and/or injunction addressed to Justice Scalia and referred to the Court is denied.

Update: Judicial review is allowed only after the Electoral College vote and Congressional Certification.

Mechanisms exist under the Twelfth Amendment and 3 U.S.C. 15 for any challenge to any candidate to be ventilated when electoral votes are counted, and the Twentieth Amendment provides guidance regarding how to proceed if a president elect shall have failed to qualify.

Issues regarding qualifications or lack thereof can be laid before the voting public before the election and, once the election is over, can be raised as objections as the electoral votes are counted in Congress.

Therefore, this order holds that the challenge presented by plaintiff is committed under the Constitution to the electors and the legislative branch, at least in the first instance. Judicial review, if any, should occur only after the electoral and Congressional processes have run their course.


The Justices denied the "stay", but have retained the "certori." The case is not dead. They’re waiting for the Electoral College to actually elect him. Obama is not President Elect until after the Electoral College "elects" him. Then Congress must approve the Election. Only one senator AND only one representative are needed to stop Obama’s election approval.
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After the electors sign the certificate of vote, the votes are sent to Washington.

Then next step comes on Jan. 8, when Congress meets in a joint session to count the electoral votes. President-elect Obama will be inaugurated on Jan. 20.

Count and certify is not the same as approval. Thus it has been done and the news channels are reporting him as the official POTUS elect.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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Electoral College (United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
The Twelfth Amendment mandates that the Congress assemble in joint session.[25] Additionally, federal law mandates that such joint session to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the election take place on the sixth day of January in the calendar year immediately following the meetings of the presidential electors.[26] The meeting is held at 1:00 p.m. in the Chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives. The sitting Vice President is expected to preside, but in several cases the President pro tempore of the Senate has chaired the proceedings instead. The Vice President and the Speaker of the House sit at the podium, with the Vice President in the seat of the Speaker of the House. Senate pages bring in the two mahogany boxes containing each state's certified vote and place them on tables in front of the Senators and Representatives. Each house appoints two tellers to count the vote. Relevant portions of the Certificate of Vote are read for each state, in alphabetical order. If there are no objections, the presiding officer declares the result of the vote and, if applicable, states who is elected President and Vice President. The Senators then depart from the House Chamber.

Pursuant to the Twelfth Amendment, the House of Representatives is required to go into session immediately to vote for President if no candidate for President receives a majority of the electoral votes (since 1964, 270 of the 538 electoral votes). For example, this procedure would be triggered in the event of a 269-to-269 tie.

In this event, the House of Representatives is limited to choosing from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each state delegation votes en bloc - its members have a single vote collectively (and the District of Columbia does not receive a vote). A candidate must receive an absolute majority of state delegation votes (currently 26) in order for that candidate to become the President-elect. Additionally, delegations from at least two-thirds of all the states must be present for voting to take place. The House continues balloting until it elects a President.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:49 PM
 
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The Betrayal » Justices Deny Wrotnowksi
Docket #08A469 – The application for stay and/or injunction addressed to Justice Scalia and referred to the Court is denied.

Update: Judicial review is allowed only after the Electoral College vote and Congressional Certification.

Mechanisms exist under the Twelfth Amendment and 3 U.S.C. 15 for any challenge to any candidate to be ventilated when electoral votes are counted, and the Twentieth Amendment provides guidance regarding how to proceed if a president elect shall have failed to qualify.

Was this another cut and paste job by our man Koot?
Do a google and this is a cut and paste thats all over the internet.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:53 PM
 
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Devvy Kidd -- Stop the election: accurate vote count impossible, Part 1
By: Devvy
November 3, 2008

© 2008 - NewsWithViews.com



Before I get into the massive vote fraud and what ALL of us must do the day after this gigantic hoax tomorrow, I would like to give an update on the lawsuits regarding Obama's citizenship status. First, Berg v Obama, et al. Phil's web site has had more than 86 MILLION hits since he filed. The day after Phil Berg filed an 'Application to Justice Souter for an Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4, 2008' and Writ of Certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court, a news wire story flashed around the world, Oct. 31, 2008:

Interesting archive from a couple of months ago that helped to feed the mania.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:57 PM
 
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Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock...

The fat lady is half way through her aria and the zebras are raising their whistles to end the fourth quarter.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:58 PM
 
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The Justices denied the "stay", but have retained the "certori." The case is not dead.
Wrong. If you'd actually read the case you keep linking here, you'd know that Wrotnowski specifically requested that his petition for a stay be treated as a full petition for certiorari, citing Bush v. Gore as his authority. The case was denied. In whole. If the court wished to retain any part of it, they would have said so.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:01 PM
 
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Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock...

The fat lady is half way through her aria and the zebras are raising their whistles to end the fourth quarter.
And with the exception of a die hard few the losing teams fans have gone home and wished the obvious victors the best of in the playoffs. Win it for our conference was heard being yelled by them. The competing teams are about to shake hands but a handful of losers are about to throw more beer.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:02 PM
 
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Wrong. If you'd actually read the case you keep linking here, you'd know that Wrotnowski specifically requested that his petition for a stay be treated as a full petition for certiorari, citing Bush v. Gore as his authority. The case was denied. In whole. If the court wished to retain any part of it, they would have said so.
Read? Is that in the Terms of the forum?
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:03 PM
 
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And with the exception of a die hard few the losing teams fans have gone home and wished the obvious victors the best of in the playoffs. Win it for our conference was heard being yelled by them. The competing teams are about to shake hands but a handful of losers are about to throw more beer.
Got ta love a great writer!
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