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Old 06-23-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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Basically the Republican party has the same problem as Buick, Cadillac and Lincoln, their demographic is in the "60 to dead" range. I know it's a cliche' to always trot out the "angry white male" label, but if the shoe fits.

As the national party plays more and more to its base, it will find that it's playing in a smaller and smaller venue. Even though McCain beat Obama in the "white over-? years old" demographic, it was by a much smaller margin than Bush had over Kerry. And even though the % was significant, the total numbers are what counts, and he lost by an increasing % in the groups that are increasing.

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Old 06-24-2009, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am in the "Republican" demographig and I own a Buick Wagon (great car BTW) and am well into the 60 to dead age range so why do I always vote for my DEMOCRAT of choice?
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:57 AM
 
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For the first time in my memory, which is rather lengthy, such a large number of younger Americans got involved. I think that is as a result of what Obama represents. Hope, that the U.S. will re-enter the world of nations, rather than trying to direct it. It is an ambitious task and the GOP certainly does not want to see that happen. They are and will continue to do whatever they can to prevent it.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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Basically when the fical shoe drops people as Biuden say will swing the pendulm of chnge the oppoiste way. That show will drop very qucikly as yonger peole see that their being give a debt they may never recober form in their lifetime. Riughyt now they are living on hope but reality will set in. They will be looking for another reagan just as they did after the 60's revolution and it will be driven by debt caused by huge deficit spending.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:49 PM
 
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Basically when the fical shoe drops people as Biuden say will swing the pendulm of chnge the oppoiste way. That show will drop very qucikly as yonger peole see that their being give a debt they may never recober form in their lifetime. Riughyt now they are living on hope but reality will set in. They will be looking for another reagan just as they did after the 60's revolution and it will be driven by debt caused by huge deficit spending.
The younger folks of this world are simply more technically and perhaps better informed then the older folks…. You can say thanks mainly to the Internet! I suspect thats why many of them gave there vote to Obama.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:52 PM
 
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The younger folks of this world are simply more technically and perhaps better informed then the older folks…. You can say thanks mainly to the Internet! I suspect thats why many of them gave there vote to Obama.
Plus, many don’t listen day-in and day-out to Neocon Bullcon from talk radio.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:27 PM
 
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The younger folks of this world are simply more technically and perhaps better informed then the older folks…. You can say thanks mainly to the Internet! I suspect thats why many of them gave there vote to Obama.
The younger group of voters (to which I belong) consists of many brain dead sheep who think it's cool to vote for Obama and the (D) party.

If they thought about it (which most of them don't), supporting Obama is a very bad idea especially for this group since he is saddling this country with such a large debt, a weakened currency and tearing down the capitalist system which built this country to what it is. He is in the process of taking over our Healthcare system, which will mean rationed care for us when we grow up.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:45 PM
 
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Among voters under 30, 66% went for Obama. I think the Republicans have trouble now and for the foreseeable future.

"Nonpartisan pollster Scott Keeter points to two attributes of young voters that pose major challenges for Republicans.

One is their diversity. As Keeter notes, the GOP is "almost entirely a party made up of whites, and it has struggled to find a way to appeal to minorities."
Voters 30 and over in 2008 were 77% white, according to exit polls. Voters under 30 were 62% white. The party's need to do better with young voters goes hand in hand with its need to do better with black, Hispanic and Asian voters.

The other challenge is cultural, says Keeter, director of survey research for the Pew Research Center.

Young voters are less socially conservative than the electorate as a whole on issues ranging from homosexuality to immigration. They are also more secular and participate less in organized religion. In a recent Pew poll, 25% of Americans born since 1976 were atheist, agnostic or "nothing in particular" - compared with 13% of baby boomers.

"Young voters need to see a GOP that is more socially libertarian, particularly toward gay rights. With changing demographics come changing attitudes," Republican consultant Mike Murphy wrote in Time magazine this month, lamenting in the same column that "A GOP ice age is on the way."

GOP nearing brink of generation gap - JSOnline

There is a problem with this. People under 30
don't vote. And they didn't vote this past election either.

How come when people get older they start voting republican? Could it be because they have actually lived a little in the real worls and they have first hand experience with dumb arse democratic policy hurting them?

Why don't the democrats do something about securing the over 30 vote?

It's just like when people ask why republicans can't get the woman's vote. Why doesn't anyone ask why the dems can't get the men's vote?

Why can't the dems get the white men's vote? Demographically, white men are a minority group. Why aren't the dems reaching out to them?

I never hear these questions.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Democrats have a goodly portion of the over 60 vote. With Social Security providing the difference between surviving and poverty for many of these people, particularly the folks that had their savings recently halved by Wall Street, and the Republicans pushing “privatization” of that system, very few of this emerging demographic are going to vote against their economic self interest.

The two groups the Republicans can count on are the very wealthy and the segment of poor and middle class that still believe the Republicans are the party of the White Christian God. Republican policies have, INHO, provides ample evidence that they are indeed a party of God and that God is Mammon, the God of avarice and greed.

The younger generation can see that the playing board is designed by Republicans to keep youth from advancing by making college unaffordable, burdening them with providing their own health care and suppressing any possibility of joining a union for better working conditions and pay. The younger generation is not as deluded as the Republican Party seems to think.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:22 AM
 
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I never hear these questions.
That comes after the question: "How come we did so badly during the last election season?"
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