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Old 07-21-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Sane Conservatives are fleeing the GOP leaving the Birthers and Limbaugh Lemmings in charge. There are fewer Republicans now than Independents.

There is no election right now but the GOP is no longer aa main stream party.
Where do you get the facts to back up these assertions?

First, you undermine your own argument when you turn to silly talking points such as "the Limbaugh Lemmings" and reduce Republicans and conservatives to robotic like morons who follow orders from Rush Limbaugh. I don't listen to Rush because I'm too busy working during the day so I can pay taxes to support our bloated government.

Also how can you possibly say the Republican Party isn't a "mainstream party" when it has been gathering one side or the other of 50% in all the recent elections? Sure, the Democrats have eeked out more wins in the last couple of elections (yup...just two elections 2006 and 2008) but they have been very close in the popular vote.

You may prefer Democrats for your own reasons...that's fine, but try to have some level of objectivity when you comment on facts and don't mangle them as you did.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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But a 50% majority and a runoff are required by GA law. You can't take the prior results which were not final and decide you prefer them because they were more to your liking. Wow...talk about cherry picking.
Those results were final. They were not enough to declare a winner because of Georgia law but those were the results. Cherry picking is ignoring an election where nearly 4 million people voted and holding up an election where half the number did.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Those results were final. They were not enough to declare a winner because of Georgia law but those were the results.
Sorry, but just factually incorrect. We can debate opinion but not fact. The results of the US Senate race were the final results. Primaries and elections without a majority mean nothing. The final runoff tally is the certified result. You may not like it, but it doesn't make it untrue.

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Cherry picking is ignoring an election where nearly 4 million people voted and holding up an election where half the number did.
The same number of people have the opportunity to vote in all elections, from primaries to runoffs. The fact that many people don't find it a priority and don't cast their vote is their personal failing and not one of the system. Georgia had 2 weeks of absentee early voting (4 weeks for the general election) for the runoff and there are no excuses except laziness, apathy, or stupidity for not voting.

Even if you want to discount the runoff as you so obviously do, Chambliss still received 49.8% in the general election, and received at least 3% more than Martin. So he won any way you want to tally it. In Georgia you must have a majority and a plurality isn't a legal win.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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With obama doing such a horrible job you would think America would wake up by 2012 then the entire country would just go RED! But we live in a country hooked on fake info from CNN & MNSBC. America is hooked on lame reality tv! So people are basically not caring for the future of America. So basically i sort of agree with your picks, but its sad!
Obama is dealing with the aftermath of 8 years of idiocy in the oval office. As bad as things are going, I really shudder to think if that senile old fart from AZ and the twit from Alaska were in charge.

Remember how Bush kept cutting taxes for the rich and telling us how the prosperity would 'trickle down' and we would all prosper? Are you still waiting?
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:27 PM
 
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Texas will turn blue by 2020. Mark my words.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Nevada
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Mention Bush all you want! He like Clinton before him hurt America! But Obama has done everything he said he was not going to do, and in fact, does exactly what Bush was doing, and people clap.

Oh, well, what do you expect from people who are so bereft of their own life they will risk getting in accidnets not to miss lost. (The same people who deny electing Bush. Twice.)

See you in four years, when no one will admit to voting for him.




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Obama is dealing with the aftermath of 8 years of idiocy in the oval office. As bad as things are going, I really shudder to think if that senile old fart from AZ and the twit from Alaska were in charge.

Remember how Bush kept cutting taxes for the rich and telling us how the prosperity would 'trickle down' and we would all prosper? Are you still waiting?
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:07 AM
 
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Sorry, but just factually incorrect. We can debate opinion but not fact. The results of the US Senate race were the final results. Primaries and elections without a majority mean nothing. The final runoff tally is the certified result. You may not like it, but it doesn't make it untrue.
No it is not. The results of the General Election were final. Just because they required a run off election does not make them any less final. Primaries mean little but general election results speak volumes about where a state is politically.

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The same number of people have the opportunity to vote in all elections, from primaries to runoffs. The fact that many people don't find it a priority and don't cast their vote is their personal failing and not one of the system. Georgia had 2 weeks of absentee early voting (4 weeks for the general election) for the runoff and there are no excuses except laziness, apathy, or stupidity for not voting.

Even if you want to discount the runoff as you so obviously do, Chambliss still received 49.8% in the general election, and received at least 3% more than Martin. So he won any way you want to tally it. In Georgia you must have a majority and a plurality isn't a legal win.
Did I ever say that Chambliss (*spit*) did not win?
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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No it is not. The results of the General Election were final. Just because they required a run off election does not make them any less final. Primaries mean little but general election results speak volumes about where a state is politically.
OK...not going to debate reality from your fantasy world and the semantics you want to play. You're either playing at being thick as a brick or your truly are that thick.

Bottom line....3 weeks after Obama lost in Georgia, Chambliss cleaned Martin's clock with a 16% margin of victory. You can ignore it, try to wish it away, pretend it's not true, or whatever, but the runoff was the only election that mattered for US Senate, legally and in fact.
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think Georgia got what it deserved: a right wing babbling fool. Now watch this "Red" state start losing government farm and military subsudies.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I think Georgia got what it deserved: a right wing babbling fool. Now watch this "Red" state start losing government farm and military subsudies.
Yeah and watch New Hampshire as it loses all that was unique about it. I lived 8 miles from the NH line in Massachuesetts for 15 years. NH was always the sane cousin to the wacko lefty Mass. Now all that is eroding and NH is turning into another VT or MA. You'll have a sales tax, income tax, and all the trappings of home before long.
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